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I'm remodeling my house and i have a ranch style house built in 1964. ceilings are 8 ft tall and I have staircase leading to the basement in the middle of living room and kitchen/dining room.
Its been a long time of me not being able to decide of how i want to proceed with the remodel.

Ill post a few pictures for you guys to see.

The first four pictures are just 4 angles of the area and picture 5 is the layout with some dimensions.


In the first 4 pictures you will the the stairs in the middle that lead to the basement. The basement height from the floor of basement to the floor joists is approximately 8 feet (so not a lot of room).

You will also notice there are half walls around the stairs. currently there are no walls. it is just all open completely to the sub floor.



I really wanted to have an open floor plan but do not know if there is better way to approach this. Future possible sale and so on.

There is no best place to move the stairs. no matter where i would move them there are many flaws.

another problem with the stairs is that currently the rise and run is about 7.5 rise over 8 run which is pretty small so I want to make the runs 10" which will need more space for the stairs

For example i was thinking of moving the stairs to run along the side where the garage door but the problem is that when you hit that last step, your face is staring at the wall and no space to turn around. I was thinking of making a turn (L shape) at the bottom but the the problem is the ceiling height. The head room is a killer.

I was also thinking of making the stairs start running along side where the entrance door is toward the garage door wall and do and L shape there.

Look at image 6.



What are your thoughts guys? What would you do?
 

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Hey guys,



I'm remodeling my house and i have a ranch style house built in 1964. ceilings are 8 ft tall and I have staircase leading to the basement in the middle of living room and kitchen/dining room.
Its been a long time of me not being able to decide of how i want to proceed with the remodel.

Ill post a few pictures for you guys to see.

The first four pictures are just 4 angles of the area and picture 5 is the layout with some dimensions.


In the first 4 pictures you will the the stairs in the middle that lead to the basement. The basement height from the floor of basement to the floor joists is approximately 8 feet (so not a lot of room).

You will also notice there are half walls around the stairs. currently there are no walls. it is just all open completely to the sub floor.



I really wanted to have an open floor plan but do not know if there is better way to approach this. Future possible sale and so on.

There is no best place to move the stairs. no matter where i would move them there are many flaws.

another problem with the stairs is that currently the rise and run is about 7.5 rise over 8 run which is pretty small so I want to make the runs 10" which will need more space for the stairs

For example i was thinking of moving the stairs to run along the side where the garage door but the problem is that when you hit that last step, your face is staring at the wall and no space to turn around. I was thinking of making a turn (L shape) at the bottom but the the problem is the ceiling height. The head room is a killer.

I was also thinking of making the stairs start running along side where the entrance door is toward the garage door wall and do and L shape there.

Look at image 6.



What are your thoughts guys? What would you do?
Talk about the basement. Are the outside walls finished properly with insulation, floors, layout of beams and or walls, direction and size of floor joists. How high is the foundation wall, Under floor above or?



Finished stairs are usually 36" wide but going against the foundation they often use up close to 48" upstairs..
 

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retired framer
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You might look at this with a wedge step on the landing and 2 steps down in the basement.
If the walls around the old stairs are bearing walls, that could be used for the support for these stairs saving the work of new footings in the basement.
 

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An 'L' shaped stair is not a great solution, needing a column at the corner. Putting it up in the front corner of the house is not a strong solution either. You can still have an open feeling floorplan by removing some of the stair walls, but I am betting that a completely open stair does not fit your style of house, you may need the wall support for the ceiling joists, and an anchor wall is a good thing in a wide space (which you have, not long and linear). Also you need to develop plans for the whole house do determine the stair placement, not just looking at it piecemeal.
- keep the stair location, extend the stringers, open up some of it.
- move a straight run to the wall, but it will be tight, a center beam would complicate this.
 

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