[zero5854]

Will this drain be ok for inspection?

Ok I am doing a roughin on a 2 story house in Bucks County PA. Their code requires back venting so I have done so on the first floor. BUT I have run into a snag on the second floor 2 bathrooms. By customer request he wants a double bowl vanity in the first bathroom and a regular vanity in the second bathroom. Even though all of these sinks are way closer than 6' to the stack they still must be vented. I also have limited bay space because of the ductwork that has to go through the bathroom so here is what I got. Keep in mind I do have the correct pitch on the 2in and all of the pvc for that matter im more concerned about the setup for these 2 vanities sharing the same drain....I also have to have the two showers on the left of the stack (not connected yet) to share a line coming into the stack as well as tie them into the back vent on the other side. If I had more bays to work in this would be a non issue. Any advice on my current setup would be appreciated.

(BTW the pvc shown in ceiling is obviously dry fitted bc im not sure if its gonna be how I want it done yet...also the vent for the sinks is not in the shot because its above the floor and of course above the flood line)

 

[TheEplumber]

You're plumbing for a customer? Are you a plumber?:whistling2:

 

[oh'mike]

Believe it or not--in Pennsylvania--a plumber is not needed if the work is up to code----

A good state for the remodeling contractor---Ben will correct me if I heard this one wrong---

 

[TheEplumber]

Believe it or not--in Pennsylvania--a plumber is not needed if the work is up to code----

A good state for the remodeling contractor---Ben will correct me if I heard this one wrong---

Ah- but a bad state to be a plumber? :jester:
I did notice the OP posted an intro- guess he is a plumber :thumbup:
Not sure about your code cuz its different than what I use, but is this helpful?(piped lavs in blue line instead of the yellow)
BTW I can't use a cross either- guess you can?

 

[oh'mike]

Well------I did say 'as long as it meets code'---

 

[zero5854]

thanks for the replies. Ok yea I hear ya on the double san. tee but usually yea a double fixture(see second image in post) tee is used BUT for room restraints and beings the distance of the toilets I dont think it will be a issue. I say that bc usually when using the san tee its the toilets that will give a issue when both are flushed at once, and bc of the shortness of the tee you could possibly run into problems. my toilets that will come off of this are a good 3ft away which should be enough room on the line for good flow vs them being on that tee at close range ...however maybe THIS inspector may complain...hes a real stickler this one...think I should change it?

also thanks for the though on running the 2in I also thought of that but wasnt sure on using a standard wye on there. I have in light of that decided that I can use a 3x2 tee above the floor and have the two sinks come off of that in the wall. the GREAT thing about that is I dont have to run seperate vents for them this way bc they are less (WAY LESS) than 5' from the stack and of course the rest of the stack going above the sinks will be dry. see pic below for what I mean on the 3x2 tee. thanks for the help

 

[ddawg16]

Plumbing? How about those holes through the engineered joists? If I recall, you can't be larger than 40% of the height of the joist....and there are limitations on where the hole can be...1st 3rd or middle 3rd (should be spelled out by the joist manuf)

 

[zero5854]

Plumbing? How about those holes through the engineered joists? If I recall, you can't be larger than 40% of the height of the joist....and there are limitations on where the hole can be...1st 3rd or middle 3rd (should be spelled out by the joist manuf)

sorry ur wrong. I have the paperwork on the joists it specifies that you can drill as long as you are at least 1/8 inch away from top and bottom flanges...also the largest hole for these is 6 and 1/4 inch. there are actually different sizes and models of these beams. Another fact on these particular joints for example is on 2 inch holes you have to be at least a foot away from any load bearing wall where the joist meets it.

 

[jagans]

Those holes are fine, especially since he is so close to support. Were he out at mid span, I might be a bit concerned, but not there. Why are you making poop take the local instead of the express? You could have turned that El coming through the floor 180 degrees, go through the joist and tie in to the main.

 

[ddawg16]

sorry ur wrong. I have the paperwork on the joists it specifies that you can drill as long as you are at least 1/8 inch away from top and bottom flanges...also the largest hole for these is 6 and 1/4 inch. there are actually different sizes and models of these beams. Another fact on these particular joints for example is on 2 inch holes you have to be at least a foot away from any load bearing wall where the joist meets it.

Ok....

How about that gap in the top plate of that load bearing wall? It's my understanding that you have to strap that with MST37's or something like that.

 

[zero5854]

Ok....

How about that gap in the top plate of that load bearing wall? It's my understanding that you have to strap that with MST37's or something like that.

Yes geez its not done yet. BTW that wall is NOT a load bearing wall the two outside walls of the bathroom ARE. Do you think im amateur? We have actual licensed carpenters there and asked about cutting and notching before I did so. Straps and plates will be installed when im done piping in.

EDIT
On a side not thats twice you called me out and twice you were wrong. If you dont have any positive input or anything good to say instead of criticizing my work then dont comment. thanks

 

[Javiles]

Yes geez its not done yet. BTW that wall is NOT a load bearing wall the two outside walls of the bathroom ARE. Do you think im amateur?

If your not an amateur what are you doing asking for ADVISE on a DIY site.?

ddawg16 was just pointing out things that the average DIY may not know how is he to know that your a professional asking for advise.

 

[zero5854]

Yes geez its not done yet. BTW that wall is NOT a load bearing wall the two outside walls of the bathroom ARE. Do you think im amateur?

If your not an amateur what are you doing asking for ADVISE on a DIY site.?

ddawg16 was just pointing out things that the average DIY may not know how is he to know that your a professional asking for advise.

I was asking more of a design opinion bc I was fuzzy on the kind of shape I used thought I woukf get a few opinions im sure theres other pros on here. Two if that was the case that he was just "pointing things out" then maybe he shoulda specified such. Anyway this is all offtopic my issue is resolved thanks

 

[ddawg16]

I was asking more of a design opinion bc I was fuzzy on the kind of shape I used thought I woukf get a few opinions im sure theres other pros on here. Two if that was the case that he was just "pointing things out" then maybe he shoulda specified such. Anyway this is all offtopic my issue is resolved thanks

For the record....I have asked questions here.....and gotten an indirect response to something else that was in the photo.....9 times out of 10 the off topic comment was correct and I was heading down a path of do over....

So now, I don't hesitate to post pics....and if someone catches something that I missed...I'm grateful....


Most recently we were talking about water heaters....someone questioned my vent pipe...they thought I was using single wall....but I did go back and verify that I was doing%2

 

[oh'mike]

ZERO--When a homeowner comes here asking simple basic questions ,we all jump in and offer help and sometimes suggest it is time to call in a pro-----

When a 'PRO' comes on here asking simple basic questions----us pros and experienced DIYers get kind of edgy----a 'pro' learns from another 'pro' before selling that service----

Would you hire a plumber that needed to to ask advice on the internet from a DIY site?

When I need to learn something new for my trade,I hire a pro and watch and learn---this way the customer gets a proper product and I get a private lesson aimed exactly at the new skill I need to add to my kit of skills.

Win win for all---the pro gets a pay check--the customer gets a right and proper job--and I walk away with something that I can sell safely----