[Kodyb]

I'm replacing the main 200 amp service panel and was wondering if those you that deal with this on a more regualar basis have a preference in brand. The only big difference I can see is that the Square D QO breakers have the orange trip window. Other than that and the way they hook in I see no difference....

 

[joecaption]

If you stick with a Square D you will be able to find the breakers anywhere.

 

[tylernt]

If you do Square D you want QO, not Homeline. My house has Homeline and Square D doesn't make as many accessories and options for Homeline as it does QO.

 

[J. V.]

Panels are like cars. Everyone has a favorite and usually have a good reason. For me its usually cost. I used GE here at home and it has served me well. It was cheap compared to Square D.
The best panels have a copper buss and cost the most. I guess I recommend the panel with a copper buss and the more spaces the better. JMHO.

 

[tylernt]

I recommend the panel with a copper buss and the more spaces the better. JMHO.

Absolutely. If it physically fits in the space, get a 40-slot panel for sure. That way you don't have to fool around with tandems.

And if for some reason a 40-slot absolutely won't fit, make SURE that the panel you get will accept tandems in ALL slots, not just a couple of them. (I'm glaring at you, Square D :furious: .)

 

[Jim Port]

Many of the panels will only accept tandems in certain slots, if they accept them at all. This is not just a Square D issue.

The internals of a Squared D QO and Homeline are identical. Homeline is just the less expensive line from Square D.

 

[tylernt]

The internals of a Squared D QO and Homeline are identical. Homeline is just the less expensive line from Square D.

Quality may be the same, but you can't get Square D interlock kits for certain Homeline panels. Like mine.

 

[Billy_Bob]

At the store(s) where you shop, look at the breakers and panel accessories they carry. And WHICH panel most of those are for.

You might need an extra grounding bar, various sizes of breakers, space saving breakers, GFCI breakers, AFCI breakers, a whole house surge protector which plugs into a double slot, etc. Some stores will carry those items, but for just one brand panel.

It is nice to be able to go to a store and find the accessory you need - not have to order it.

 

[Trucon01]

Attached is a pic of my new Square D QO panel / breakers. Another good thing with Square D is you can double tap the breakers, legally.

 

[Jim Port]

Cutler -Hammer CH can accept two conductors also in the smaller ampacities.

 

[mpoulton]

The last few panels I've installed (shop, garage, studio, and pool subpanels) have been Eaton (Cutler-Hammer) panels for BR breakers. They're cheap and common, accept tandem and quad breakers, and have enough accessories available. I chose them based on price and availability.

 

[Kodyb]

I've narrowed it down to either Square D QO or GE, leaning toward the GE for the simple fact of cost and it has a copper buss. I like the QO for the fact it has the orange trip indicators but I don't see the benefit of that for twice the cost... even the breakers for the QO are over twice the cost of the GE and even the sqaure D Homeline. GE's whole house surge protector is half the price too. Yep just talked myself into GE... Thanks for all the input guys!! :thumbup:

 

[Speedy Petey]

I've narrowed it down to either Square D QO or GE, leaning toward the GE for the simple fact of cost and it has a copper buss.

QO also has a copper buss. Even so I cannot justify the added cost, and I HATE QO's neutral bar arrangement.

 

[rrolleston]

I really like the murray/siemens panels with tin coated copper bus. Even the milbank meter mains I like to install have siemens tin coated cobber bus in them.

 

[sgip2000]

QO also has a copper buss. Even so I cannot justify the added cost, and I HATE QO's neutral bar arrangement.

I know what you mean about the neutral bus. My service conductors come in on the side right next to the neutral bus blocking the upper half of the bus.

 

[Kodyb]

Settled on the GE, I like the way it turned out. A lot of room at the top and bottom to manipulate wires, went with a whole home surge protector also.

 

[Jim Port]

You cannot have the two grounds in the same lug.

The surge pigtail should be as short as possible.

There might be other issues.

 

[rjniles]

On the right side I see 2 neutrals under 1 screw. Not compliant.

 

[Kodyb]

I didn't figure it was, but thats what the old panel had and I'm not even sure where one of them goes & the wire is to tough and short to get into the bar...besides it won't be inspected anyway...

 

[rrolleston]

Did you use a bushing for the conduit coming into the back of the panel? More than one conductor per terminal. What is the black and green wires doing that look like they circle all the way around the panel? Why is there wire with sheathing almost all the way to where it connects?