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Just got my McAfee renewal notice for $104. Best Buy has it on sale for $24 ( $70 off ) for 3 devices. Now I am going to haggle some more and see if they will price match it. Otherwise I will remove it and buy it for $24 and re-install. Crazy how much profit they make or how cheap they can sell it. Most people don't know how to shop and probably pay retail, not me.
Dump that CPU hog and try AVG free. I've been using AVG free on all my computers along with a Host file type ad blocker for the last 15 years or so and have never had a virus and virtually 0 ads. I've had several virus/hijack attempts over the years that have been effectively blocked, just using these two programs.

As other's have noted, McAfee resists being removed. You might want to check several online procedures to fully remove it, if you decide to go that route.

I'm an old IT pro, building and working on computers since the first 8088 home CPU's came out. Got MS certified and went into network setup and security until I blew 4 disks in my back, lifting and installing a 200lb server into the top of a server rack while working at a Pitney Bowes data center.

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i only know what I have read. How many signals can you run in a long distance multi?
One.

Multi does not run multiple signals, but the one signal bounces off the sides. Multi mode transceivers used to be much cheaper - no so today. Multimode is usually 50 micros fiber (62.5 for some really old systems) and single mode is 12.5 microns.

Multi mode uses 850nm or 1300nm signals; single mode used 1310nm or 1550nm. 1550nm is better for really long runs, but 1310nm dominates because of inertia and cost. There are transceivers that run 1310 and 1550 so you can put transmit and receive on one fiber instead of the usual two, however, that is usually done where there is only fiber in place or one is damaged. Another issue is you need a pair of different "polarity" (to use the term in a non-electrical sense), whereas conventional two strand setups use the same transceiver type on both ends.

I did an install of about 2600ft buried single mode fiber in 2" schedule 40 conduit carrying 1310nm on el-cheapo Trendnet SFPs rated for 10km- works great of IP over that distance. Copper Cat 5/6/etc is generally rated to 100 meters max.

I did have non-techies involved in the project request multi mode because "more modes is obviously better" :)

There is a nice description at Camplex Fiber Optic Cable Solutions and Accessories for Broadcast
 

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Your streaming question really has nothing to do with your connection as others have said it is much faster than is needed it could be your router, wifi signal, computer running an application in the background, we browser settings etc. Since this happens rarely you will have a hard time actually troubleshooting the issue vs trying things and see if it does not happen. I have GB Fiber and on a wired connection never seem to have a lag. One a wireless one I do see a lag once in a while so I would say without any real knowledge that it is probably your wireless connection. I have a very strong wireless network at my house.
 

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My PC is hardwired for internet and not using wi-fi. The new fiber system is noticeably better and like I said the You Tube issue was very rare and maybe a issue with their server.

I believe in McAfee and have lots of RAM and even with my beat up old Acer PC it worked OK . I always buy the most RAM available so maybe that is the issue. I usually update my PCs every 4 years as I play intensive video games like Civilization 6 so with a powerful PC McAfee is not a issue.

Windows Defender is surprisingly good as my 87 yr Dad kept screwing up his computer and finally we just let him fly with it and hope for the best. He would open links in emails friends sent him and get viruses and me and the BIL had to keep fixing it. Defender seemed to stop most of them and was simple enough that he did not get confused or mess with it.

I had Norton 20 yrs ago and yeah it was a power sponge but I am having no issues with McAfee. Intel owns them and IMO they are not going to do the greasy hidden file biz because of the bad publicity thru social media.
 

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We have two service providers where I am in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada: Bell MTS and Shaw Cable. Bell started using fiber optic and ran it to my house last year ( dug up yard ) and the neighbors, Shaw still uses copper. Shaw says they can provide the same speed 500 Mbps and fiber is no better as it is the/their or Bell's server speed and power that matters not the wire/cable type.

I am switching to Bell and fiber Monday as they gave me a great 2 yr deal and a $150 VISA card to lure me over. They say their fiber optic cable goes directly to the "head office" and Shaw's copper goes to a neighborhood hub and when their hub is overloaded everything slows down. Somebody must be lying or telling half truths.

I have noticed the occasional You Tube slowdown and freezing ( rarely ) in the last month and wonder if Shaw and their " hub " for the neighborhood and technology is the issue. Does the fiber from Bell go to some hub and not straight to head office as they claim.

Anybody know how these providers actually provide?
You absolutely want fiber over copper or coaxial cable. Twisted pair copper is useless... it is the earliest version of internet service... DSL over existing lines... and no company is maintaining their legacy copper wires.

If it's coax, then you can get higher DOWNLOAD speeds but your upload speeds are usually 5 to 10 percent of your download speeds. Moreover, the advertised speed on coax is rarely what you actually get because of other subscribers and the fact that cable TV goes down the same coax cable.

Fiber has a MUCH higher theoretical bandwidth and you get symmetric upload and download speeds. Fiber infrastructure is much newer than either copper or coax and should have less problems. In my view, there's no contest between the two.
 

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500 Mbps thru copper or fiber optic is still 500 Mbps, I have 300 Mbps and I can stream movies without any slowdown on my part.
Now sometimes there are slowdowns from the "Sender" of the video, which neither copper or fiber can help with.

Even IF your local hub slowed down to 25% of the rated 500 Mbps your tube vids should not be affected.

A lot of the "hype" of faster speeds is just that "hype" most people don't need more than 50 Mbps to be happy and trouble free.
100 mbps should be just fine for about 90+ % of anyone.

I notice advertisements and commercials stream a lot better with my 900 mbs upgraded modem from comcast.
 

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You absolutely want fiber over copper or coaxial cable. Twisted pair copper is useless... it is the earliest version of internet service... DSL over existing lines... and no company is maintaining their legacy copper wires.

If it's coax, then you can get higher DOWNLOAD speeds but your upload speeds are usually 5 to 10 percent of your download speeds. Moreover, the advertised speed on coax is rarely what you actually get because of other subscribers and the fact that cable TV goes down the same coax cable.

Fiber has a MUCH higher theoretical bandwidth and you get symmetric upload and download speeds. Fiber infrastructure is much newer than either copper or coax and should have less problems. In my view, there's no contest between the two.
The connections and your modem also need to support the faster speeds.
 

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Dump that CPU hog and try AVG free. I've been using AVG free on all my computers along with a Host file type ad blocker for the last 15 years or so and have never had a virus and virtually 0 ads. I've had several virus/hijack attempts over the years that have been effectively blocked, just using these two programs.

As other's have noted, McAfee resists being removed. You might want to check several online procedures to fully remove it, if you decide to go that route.

I'm an old IT pro, building and working on computers since the first 8088 home CPU's came out. Got MS certified and went into network setup and security until I blew 4 disks in my back, lifting and installing a 200lb server into the top of a server rack while working at a Pitney Bowes data center.

Have a good day.
I am in between antivirus programs and wanted something else besides McAfee so I will research AVG a little more. I let my McAfee expire and have been winging it on a prayer with Windows Defender(or whatever its called). I am looking into BitDefender too.

I used to have Norton but the company was purchased by a larger company that turned Norton into advertising, subscription service junk so I switched to Kaspersky and added Malware Bytes free version as an additional backup coverage. As a novice, I was satisfied with Kaspersky and kept renewing with them until the U.S. banned the software because they claimed it could be used for spying by Russians. Once that was done I felt like I had no choice other than McAfee.

McAfee is also becoming common as the basic antivirus software installed on new laptops so I think most people don't question it and just continue their service once the initial period is up.

Thanks for the suggestion.
 

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I use Windows Defender, I also run adaware AV, when I get bored i will run Malware bytes free.
When I really get bored I will run an online scanner like Housecall Trend micro.
Some bugs can disable your installed AV program, so I like online scanners.

It's been Years, since I have had anything get caught.

The best anti virus, malware program lies between the ears. ;)
 

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I am in between antivirus programs and wanted something else besides McAfee so I will research AVG a little more. I let my McAfee expire and have been winging it on a prayer with Windows Defender(or whatever its called). I am looking into BitDefender too.

I used to have Norton but the company was purchased by a larger company that turned Norton into advertising, subscription service junk so I switched to Kaspersky and added Malware Bytes free version as an additional backup coverage. As a novice, I was satisfied with Kaspersky and kept renewing with them until the U.S. banned the software because they claimed it could be used for spying by Russians. Once that was done I felt like I had no choice other than McAfee.

McAfee is also becoming common as the basic antivirus software installed on new laptops so I think most people don't question it and just continue their service once the initial period is up.

Thanks for the suggestion.
Bit Defender is very good and I usually buy what is on sale at Best Buy. It is on sale now here in Canada. I don't like Norton now as the VPN and everything is seperate and extra $$ versus McAfee all in one package. IMO McAfee, BIt Defender and AVG are equal and I would use either of them. Best Buy in Canada keeps putting them on sale a LOT . Not sure how they work in the US with sales. Sometimes the sale price on the Bit Defender etc homepage is really good, you just have to keep checking.
 

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Bit Defender is very good and I usually buy what is on sale at Best Buy. It is on sale now here in Canada. I don't like Norton now as the VPN and everything is seperate and extra $$ versus McAfee all in one package. IMO McAfee, BIt Defender and AVG are equal and I would use either of them. Best Buy in Canada keeps putting them on sale a LOT . Not sure how they work in the US with sales. Sometimes the sale price on the Bit Defender etc homepage is really good, you just have to keep checking.
It used to be the only way I would buy McAfee is when they would put it on sale. Or at least what I considered a sale price. I also tried to purchase it at non-traditional stores like Hp.com or Staples where I could get one year service for at least 5 devices for $24.00. I would also wait towards the end of the year when the service was labeled '2021 one year' or '2022 one year' and I could get bargain basement prices because they had to have a fire sale to get rid of the packaging that had expired years on it. But I think they have since wised up to people who wait to renew for a cheaper price and now they just call it 'Total McAfee' with no year on the package.
 

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Some bugs can disable your installed AV program, so I like online scanners.


The best anti virus, malware program lies between the ears. ;)
Some of the upgrades of different software programs have also disabled not only my antivirus software but different programs I was using on my computer. I find it so annoying to have to reset my choices because an upgrade disabled this and enabled that in the process of installing the upgrade. In McAfee's favor I will say it used to happen all the time with Norton but not at all with McAfee. Norton used to protect my computer from attacks the way a colander safely holds and contains water.
 
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