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· Weekend Builder
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Got a nice birthday present coming to me!

$250.

Want a drill to
1) Drill
2) Screw

My current drill (corded Dewalt) is useless on screws as it constantly spins out of control. My other one (Craftsman 18v) is good, but dead.
 

· BIGRED
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What are you going to use it for? I know "Drill and screw". I don't need a drill to that, but is this just for a home handyman or for daily use on a job? Are you only doing hobby work or putting up garage doors, Kitchen cabinets, putting down wood decking, etc.?? Almost any of your 18volt cordless drills with 1/2 inch capacity keyless chucks, the hammerdrill feature, 2 or 3 speed gear boxes, variable torque settings, and possibly a light are the cats ass. I personally like Dewalt, Ryobi, Mitsubishi, and Makita. The Ridgid line also looks like a keeper though I haven't had the pleasure to try them out. All these have good warranties, good repair plans, and are easily availabile.
 

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HD has a special on the SUPERIOR (opinion) 18v Lithium Drill with Light, Radio (poor little thing) and Recipro, two Batteries and Charger for under 300.00.

Also has a coupon (still valid???) for a free Max Steel Impact Driver!!!

I have used RIDGID since 2000.

I am NOT NICE to my tools and they have NEVER bucked!!!



http://www.toolsnob.com/pictures/ridgid_compact_drill-thumb-200x246.jpg




http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/f9/f9b0db64-1a76-4266-9b6b-817e9137f589_300.jpg




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All that for less than $300.00!!!



I also have:



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I would recommend getting both a drill and an impact. $250 should be able to get you a good set. That Mikita set looks pretty good; it is also $279 at HD. Any major brand should do. Pick them up and see how they feel in your hands. I have a RIDGID pair, really love them.

What's the chances of drilling into masonary? If it is just about zero, don't get fixated on getting a hammer drill. There is a lot more choice (and the drills are lighter and cheaper) if you don't insist on that feature. Probably better to buy a cheaper corded hammer drill if, and when, you need it. If you need to drill masonary, you will probably want the extra power a corded version gives you.
 

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If you want to make holes, get a drill. If you want to drive screws, get an impact driver. You'll never be sorry, and you'll NEVER go back to driving screws with a drill. For $250 you should be able to find a fairly decent combo kit that has both. I would go with a company that makes a variety of tools using the same battery system so you can build your collection at Christmas, Fathers day, Anniversary, Halloween, Flag day.....................:laughing:
 

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Good advice from Maintenance 6

If you want to make holes, get a drill. If you want to drive screws, get an impact driver. You'll never be sorry, and you'll NEVER go back to driving screws with a drill. For $250 you should be able to find a fairly decent combo kit that has both. I would go with a company that makes a variety of tools using the same battery system so you can build your collection at Christmas, Fathers day, Anniversary, Halloween, Flag day.....................:laughing:
Best tool investment I have made is an impact driver, I use it all the time to drill holes, drive screws and small impact sockets. (20v lithum from Sears).
 

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You do know that the Craftsman 20 volt Lithium line is really the same as any 18 volt line.

Lithium batteries come in 3.6v nominal, 4 volt max (I think they are cut-off at 4.2 volts to prevent overcharging). Thus 5 batteries at the nominal rating are 18 volts (as used by most lines), and 5 batteries using the 4 volt number = 20 volts.

I think a lot of the smaller lines (compact) changed the voltage rating from 10.8 volts to 12 using the same rationale. Same batteries, same tools, but the higher number makes it seem more powerful........ marketing!

Just another note for anyone with the Craftsman C3 line. The 19.2 volt NiCd battery has more power than the Li battery. This is because the NiCd battery has 16 x 1.2 (nominal voltage cells) = 19.2 volts nominal, while the Li battery has 5 x 3.6 (nominal voltage cells) = 18 volts nominal.
 

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I second the Makita LCT200. Get the hammer drill only if you use it often enough to make the extra size and weight worth it. I have the hammer drill but would prefer to have the non-hammer drill. It it came in the kit I bought with a few other things I needed. As someone said above, if you use the impact a few times you will never go back to the drill/driver. I bought a couple of sets of the hex shank drill bits and use them in the impact most of the time. The 1/4 and 3/8 socket adapter is really great...

Rege
 

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Wow. My use is general stuff around the house. Lots of weekend projects, most aren't big (although I built a deck and a shed last summer :) ).

QUESTION:

For general use (mostly screws), what is the advantage of the Hammer capability that everyone seems to like over a regular spinning?

H.
 

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QUESTION:

For general use (mostly screws), what is the advantage of the Hammer capability that everyone seems to like over a regular spinning?

H.
Drilling into concrete. I've tried using a regular drill to drill concrete and several hours later, I went out and bought a hammer drill.
The hammer drill only took about 15 seconds
 

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Not sure what the real question is. You could be asking one of two things.

1) The hammer function on a hammer drill is of no use for putting in screws. The hammer action is along the bit (into the material being drilled), and might even make it more difficult to screw with the drill as it will add additional friction (you probably would not notice it). The primary function of the hammer action is to 'pulverize' morter/concrete/brick to allow the flutes of the drill bit to remove the material when drilling holes into these materials.

2) On an impact driver, the impact action is rotational. When the resistance is low, the impact driver works like a drill and does not provide the impact action. Once resistance above the basic motor capability is met, the impacts start (like a little hammer, 3,000 times a minute). This is in the direction of rotation and so helps to seat a screw. The result of this is: a) The tool does not twist in your hand when resistance is met, b) Provided you keep some force pushing on the screw, there is much less chance of the drill bit camming out of the screw head, and c) You get much higher effective torque to seat a bolt/screw, for example, whereas 18 volt drills advertize torques in the range of 400 in-lbs, 18 volt impact drivers advertize torques in the range of 1400 in-lbs.

I love my impact drivers, but find there are a couple of disadvantages: a) It has too much muscle for small cabinet screws, b) I've not had this problem, but you can twist the head off screws if not careful, and c) they are noisy.
 

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A regular drill/driver depends on speed to develope the torque needed to drive the screw home. An impact driver sacrifices speed for torque and it has a kind of ratchet built into the transmission that turns the screw or bolt in short sharp pulses that allow it to drive all sorts of fasteners without tearing up the heads. When you are doing any job, especially for pay, you don't want to destroy your work faster than you can complete it.
 

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Best cordless drill for $250???

Well you have plenty of choices available to you - and good ones too!!!

I would not go the dewalt route, I do not rate them too highly myself.

why not go with this drill:- Panasonic EY6432GQKW from Panasonic of course, this cordless drill is 15.3volts - which is more than enough power, and it is a light - this is very important if you are going to hold it for long periods of time in akward positions.

It also has batteries which last longer than any other cordless drill batteries out there, it says so on their website anyway.

Hope you find this useful, if you find a better model then feel free to tell me what it is.

cheers
Steve
 

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why not go with this drill:- Panasonic EY6432GQKW from Panasonic of course,

Is it just me, or do the rest of you also feel like you are getting spammed when a new member joins and his very first post is a response to an old thread, where they plug a product and/or web store....

Maybe it should be like PM, where a new member can't list a brand name or link until they have made at least 20 posts
 
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