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· MariaD73
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I would love some advice on how to manage a few aspects of a build. I have narrowed down major pieces of the puzzle, but there are a few things that I'm trying to figure out.

We're in eastern NC, climate 3 hot/humid. I looked at SIPS, steel framing, CMUs or AAC blocks, and finally decided on concrete. We're going with a concrete slab and concrete walls. We're doing somewhat of a passive solar design as well, using that to create shaded areas and manage power use. Ideally, we would like to have PV solar on the roof, but we're not sure about how much that will work in the budget.

A few preferences on details and end results:
-concrete floors with rugs rather than attached flooring
-single-story, likely a simple rectangle (or very close to that)
-no "wall cavities" in the interior
-exterior stucco or architectural stucco with weep screeding to drain - either way, large roof overhangs all around the house
-reflective roofing
-cathedral ceilings - no attic space
-minisplit (Mitsubishis) in 2-3 different locations rather than ductwork, supplemental freestanding dehumidifiers and ventilation pathways/fans to move through interior rooms

The questions that are stumping me right now:
-Metal-skin SIP roofing or ICF decking? I like the idea of the decking with a second roof (both for the sun deflection and the second-floor covered deck), as well as the continuity of the tight building envelope and solidity. How would we attach solar panels to metal SIPS without adding something else that's difficult to maintain (climbing on a sloped roof to care for). Is the cost difference worth it - I'm assuming metal SIPS would be less. I haven't researched it as much as the others.
-How do I manage the cold joint where the walls meet the slab? I really would love to virtually eliminate the ant highways as much as possible. I know that probably sounds like nitpicky overkill, but with a son with autism and his reactions to bugs (like trying to drown them by pouring cups of water down the 2nd story bathroom door frame) - I could really do without having the uninvited company. Would a continuous bead of some sort of intense flexible adhesive work if it's applied to the slab along the entire exterior wall line, to fall in the middle of the joint? I realize nothing will ever be perfect, but that sounds like it would give us an extra edge (1/4 inch bead line?) unless it further diminishes the integrity of the joint?
-Would it be better to just float the slab between ICF foundation walls?
-Buildblock has a product that allows for retaining the exterior EPS foam, while using detachable interior formwork. It looks pretty interesting, especially since the plywood could be reused for something else on the property when finished. I like the idea of getting the eps out of the interior, using a concrete stain and eliminating much of the interior wall cladding work, and even using some of the mass wall thermal properties of the concrete by eliminating the eps interior barrier. Anyone see problems I don't see coming?
 

· MariaD73
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Am I thinking about this the right way?

By doing the walls directly from the footer, I shouldn't have any of the issues I've seen with cold joints at wall bases.

I really appreciate your help! Between punched holes in drywall, the whole house echoing every sound, and seemingly every traditional building material either dissolving when it gets wet or causing asthma nightmares, I'm deciding that my new best friends for easier housing are concrete and regular old school plaster.

Any chance you'd feel like answering a few more slab questions? :)
 

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By doing the walls directly from the footer, I shouldn't have any of the issues I've seen with cold joints at wall bases.
Ayuh,.... The cold joint 'tween the footer, wall, then the floor are pretty much non-issues,....

You can keep askin' questions, 'n myself or somebody else will surely Try to answer 'em,.....
and seemingly every traditional building material either dissolving when it gets wet or causing asthma nightmares, I'm deciding that my new best friends for easier housing are concrete and regular old school plaster.
Which is Why, a good foundation, 'n good roof are so important,.....
 

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Worked on a commercial project that used ICF panels. They poured 4' at a time in 2 lifts. Building 100'X60'. They used a key at the top of the wall between pours. Lots of rebar. Building 3 stories tall. Pushed vibratory want into the concrete and vibrated as they pulled out. for both lifts. Made a 2 part key to fit around rebar. Used ICF to save on heating and cooling. Before I retired, i stopped back to see how things worked out. Heating and cooling cost were 20% better and anticipated.
 

· MariaD73
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Can/should you post-tension a slab between icf footer walls? I wonder about this because I want a decent-sized bathtub, and I'm not going to pay the thousands that people want for them - it's insane when I can do a concrete soaker. Would post-tensioning help with distributing this load, and the load of concrete interior walls as well?

Which is Why, a good foundation, 'n good roof are so important,.....[/QUOTE]

What do you think of the buildblock decking as a roofing product?

I wish that external water were the only threat - unfortunately my son tries to "wash" everything when dare to turn around for a moment. I never realized that a bathroom cabinet will turn into a pile of fuzz like paper cottonballs.
 

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I can see no reason for post tension for a basement slab.
The weight of a bath tub will not cause any damage to a nominal 4 inch slab.
 
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