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Evening folks, new here - excellent forums, so much to learn. I did search thoroughly for this topic before I created this thread so I apologize in advance if it's been answered before - just point me to the thread.

That aside, my attic door seems to have developed a BEND over the years of pulling on the cord to open it. We put some insulating foam last year to make up for the bend and prevent heat from being lost during the winter.

I would like to fix it the proper way. I would just go to Home Depot and have them cut me a new piece but I don't even know what type of wood this is to ask them for.

Thanks in advance!







 

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Noxide, Welcome to the Forum

It looks to me as if there is a chunk of foam insulation that would prevent the stair panel from seating.
You should be able to push the blade of a putty knife all along the-non hinged sides of the panel.
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Thanks for the response Bob. That is correct, the foam is what we placed there last year to stop the air from leaking into the attic. If I remove the foam that is how much deflection there is in the wood. I am seeking a new piece of wood and was wondering what kind of wood this might be, really thin plywood of some sort? Is there a common type used on swing down attic stairs?
 

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Take the plywood off, if you can, scrape that foam off it. Turn the plywood over, and remount it.

This will also let you get a good look at the plywood to see if it is cracked across that bend... in which case it would be best to go ahead and replace it.
 

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The wood that's there is too thin. That's the reason it broke. When the staircase was closed, the lip hit the frame and bent it back. To stop this from happening again, I would install stops on the interior stair frame. Either remove the current bent wood or go over the top with a 1/4" plywood. If the bent wood is too stiff to flaten out with the 1/4" ply, remove it.
Any 1/4" ply will do.
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I think releasing the pull down and letting the door slam back shut helped with that damage.
That would be the reason for the independent stops. Relying on that flimsy material to stop the door is bad engineering. It has the thickness of masonite and all the structual advantages.
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Take the plywood off, if you can, scrape that foam off it. Turn the plywood over, and remount it.

This will also let you get a good look at the plywood to see if it is cracked across that bend... in which case it would be best to go ahead and replace it.
Willie, that's a great idea, never even thought about doing that. I can definitely give that a shot.

The wood that's there is too thin. That's the reason it broke. When the staircase was closed, the lip hit the frame and bent it back. To stop this from happening again, I would install stops on the interior stair frame. Either remove the current bent wood or go over the top with a 1/4" plywood. If the bent wood is too stiff to flaten out with the 1/4" ply, remove it.
Any 1/4" ply will do.
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Thanks Ron, that was the measurement I was looking for. There is actually a big lumber yard close by our house that I can go to. I called them up today, pretty friendly folks, he stated I can even bring the piece in and he'll cut me an exact fit!


I think releasing the pull down and letting the door slam back shut helped with that damage.
Yes, a few years of doing that definitely stressed the wood in that area.

That would be the reason for the independent stops. Relying on that flimsy material to stop the door is bad engineering. It has the thickness of masonite and all the structual advantages.
Ron
This is also a great idea. I can screw some wood blocks there to act as stops with some rubber dampers glued to the wood.

I will post pics once I fix this. Thanks for your help!
 

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This are picture of how it should look.
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You have more damage than just the 1/4” plywood. The 1x4 that the 1/4” plywood attached to, seems to be loose. Look at the bottom of the ladder. There is a crack in the ladder, at the bolt holding the angle bracket, that holds the 1x4, that the plywood and pull down cord is attached to. It appears the 1x4, hinged down, breaking the plywood. The 1x4 must be attached securely to the ladder before you reattach the flipped 1/4” plywood cover.
DO NOT try to adjust anything by letting the ladder slam shut. You are just asking for more problems if you do that.
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After looking at that ladder crack, the crack could be continuing on to the hinge bolt. Check it out.
 

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This are picture of how it should look.
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You have more damage than just the 1/4” plywood. The 1x4 that the 1/4” plywood attached to, seems to be loose. Look at the bottom of the ladder. There is a crack in the ladder, at the bolt holding the angle bracket, that holds the 1x4, that the plywood and pull down cord is attached to. It appears the 1x4, hinged down, breaking the plywood. The 1x4 must be attached securely to the ladder before you reattach the flipped 1/4” plywood cover.
DO NOT try to adjust anything by letting the ladder slam shut. You are just asking for more problems if you do that.
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After looking at that ladder crack, the crack could be continuing on to the hinge bolt. Check it out.
Didn't notice this was a ten year old thread. The site should have some way to notifying people if old threads.
It was good advice any how.
 

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The post you quoted was the 13th post, not the 4th.
This is not an old thread anymore. Its a current thread, so the warning won't now pop up.
I had to find a thread that was indeed "old".
parroad22 should have got this warning when he/she posted post #9
You would not have gotten the warning because you were responding to a "current" thread. (latest post was a few minutes prior to yours)
 

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This are picture of how it should look.
View attachment 698884 View attachment 698885
You have more damage than just the 1/4” plywood. The 1x4 that the 1/4” plywood attached to, seems to be loose. Look at the bottom of the ladder. There is a crack in the ladder, at the bolt holding the angle bracket, that holds the 1x4, that the plywood and pull down cord is attached to. It appears the 1x4, hinged down, breaking the plywood. The 1x4 must be attached securely to the ladder before you reattach the flipped 1/4” plywood cover.
DO NOT try to adjust anything by letting the ladder slam shut. You are just asking for more problems if you do that.
View attachment 698902
After looking at that ladder crack, the crack could be continuing on to the hinge bolt. Check it out.
Didn't notice this was a ten year old thread. The site should have some way to notifying people if old threads.
It was good advice any how.
👍Thanks for the pictures but I really wanted to see how the OP did by flipping the plywood. I have the same sort of problem as my door is also warped leaving a half-inch gap and allowing air to escape from the attic. I wanted to know if that advice solved his problem.
This is not an old thread anymore. Its a current thread, so the warning won't now pop up.
I had to find a thread that was indeed "old".
parroad22 should have got this warning when he/she posted post #9
You would not have gotten the warning because you were responding to a "current" thread. (latest post was a few minutes prior to yours)
Okay let's stop. Geeeesh!
 

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👍Thanks for the pictures but I really wanted to see how the OP did by flipping the plywood. I have the same sort of problem as my door is also warped leaving a half-inch gap and allowing air to escape from the attic. I wanted to know if that advice solved his problem.
Is your ladder cracked like the OP's ladder? The OP only stayed around for one day. I can't see how his problem was solved by reading the post he received. Here is my first post.
This are picture of how it should look.
View attachment 698884 View attachment 698885
You have more damage than just the 1/4” plywood. The 1x4 that the 1/4” plywood attached to, seems to be loose. Look at the bottom of the ladder. There is a crack in the ladder, at the bolt holding the angle bracket, that holds the 1x4, that the plywood and pull down cord is attached to. It appears the 1x4, hinged down, breaking the plywood. The 1x4 must be attached securely to the ladder before you reattach the flipped 1/4” plywood cover.
DO NOT try to adjust anything by letting the ladder slam shut. You are just asking for more problems if you do that.
View attachment 698902
After looking at that ladder crack, the crack could be continuing on to the hinge bolt. Check it out.
Notice in my pictures, the 1x4s on the bottom of the ladder, must be mounted flat up against the ladder.
 
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