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I am looking to destroy a few weed trees ( sycamores) non native.
Any suggestions ... I have been told copper nails would do the trick.

The sycamores are competing and winning against the maples.

I don't feel comfy dropping the trees with a saw. Quotes have been hefty
2-4k.

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How big are the trees ?
If you kill them limbs will start dropping off as they dry out
I had an Oak die...payed about $750 to have it taken down
I ended up with a couple cords of wood to burn
 

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I am looking to destroy a few weed trees ( sycamores) non native.
Any suggestions ... I have been told copper nails would do the trick.

The sycamores are competing and winning against the maples.

I don't feel comfy dropping the trees with a saw. Quotes have been hefty
2-4k.

Thanks
Peel off the bark all the way around the tree.
 

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Peel off the bark all the way around the tree.
This will work if you cut all the way down to the xylem and phloem (interior bark).

Why do you want to kill the trees?

Why not just remove them?
 

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If you kill it, there's a potential it does fall. Best to make it fall in a controlled situation. Maybe rent a cherry picker and do it that way if you don't feel comfortable doing it in one shot.
 

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Yes, the best way to kill a tree is to remove a ring of bark around the tree, but you will have to check on it off and on because the tree will try to self repair.

The bark is the tree's vascular system. By removing the bark, water cannot get to the leaves. The tree will get stressed out during the hot, dry summer.

I had a tree of heaven in my backyard that a landscaper accidentally backed into with his zero turn, and ripped a huge section of bark off. The tree tried to self repair, and dropped tons of seeds and saplings grew around it, but it eventually died.

It's considered a junk tree.

http://www.whatsnewlaporte.com/2010/02/24/invasive-species-tree-of-heaven-ailanthus-altissima/
 

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This will work if you cut all the way down to the xylem and phloem (interior bark).

Why do you want to kill the trees?

Why not just remove them?
As I said in my original post, the sycamore trees are sprouting up around the maple trees. In the all important battle for sunlight the maple tree is losing the battle.

I don't feel comfortable dropping the trees myself and the quotes for removal start at $2000. The sloped land makes it difficult. I'd rather allocate that amount of money to some other reno project.

What kind of time frame would it take to see results?
 

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You cannot be serious? Peel the bark and expect the tree to die in some short order fashion? And then think it easier to deal with dead and dry than it was flexible, non flammable and alive.

And peel the bark with what? Machete?

If it is a sharp chain saw? Why not cut it down. And not create the fire hazard within the forest you seem to like.

I am not sure where you are. No matter. You cannot kill trees within a forest the way you suggest without risking the other trees. If not fire, disease and insects will move in and hurt the other trees.

If you are copping an attitude. Take them all down.

And if you kill a tree with methods suggested? At the end of the day, don't you still have to cut it out of the way?
 

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As sedester says, you are going to have way more problems with the dead sycamores in the future.:yes:

and by the way, pounding ANY type nail into it will not kill it, at least not as long as we are on this planet

Dealing with standing dead trees is a dangerous nightmare.

Sycamores rot quickly and fall or drop branches. (they are called 'widow makers' )

If you are afraid to drop the trees yourself---Ask for a price to get them cut down only---then cut them up your self and do the clean up your self.

The cost of tree removal is high because the time and manpower required to clean up and haul the slash and wood out ----and the truck and dump fees for the trash.

Cut and drop only should not cost much---I would not leave standing dead trees---that's just irresponsible.

NO NAILS!!! You will be creating a danger to any one working on those trees in the future.

---Mike-----
 

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Dealing with standing dead trees is a dangerous nightmare.
This is quite true for any inexperienced person. I use mostly standing dead to heat my home in the winter and believe me, it can be dangerous/deadly if you are not VERY careful and plan out the exact spot you want the tree to fall, avoid trees you do not want injured as the dead one falls, etc.

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As I said in my original post, the sycamore trees are sprouting up around the maple trees. In the all important battle for sunlight the maple tree is losing the battle.

I don't feel comfortable dropping the trees myself and the quotes for removal start at $2000. The sloped land makes it difficult. I'd rather allocate that amount of money to some other reno project.

What kind of time frame would it take to see results?
YEARS! SERIOUSLY. Why not let the sycamores grow? I've had to remove half a dozen diseased or neglected trees from my property. I can't imagine choosing to kill and then removing trees.
 

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YEARS! SERIOUSLY. Why not let the sycamores grow? I've had to remove half a dozen diseased or neglected trees from my property. I can't imagine choosing to kill and then removing trees.
Come on Leah. Nice maples the OP claims to have over weedlike sycamore?
Four hugs from trying me as you try to save any tree, but these things are like weeds where I live, or just South, East and West. Or imagine a bamboo thicket.

Like many things brought to the US the species of sycamore does not belong. It has no timber value.

Sorry, sharp chainsaw and constant atttention are the only way to keep this controlled.
 

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All the tree huggers out there shouldn't complain when they lose power during hurricanes or tornadoes when large trees fall on their homes or power lines.
 

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All the tree huggers out there shouldn't complain when they lose power during hurricanes or tornadoes when large trees fall on their homes or power lines.
:thumbsup: Right on. But I am a quintessential tree hugger. Put myself through school pruning and doing surgery on trees. Sometimes big ones. People forget that tree health is something they should look at every year before a limb takes out whatever slab of meat at the backyard gala being grilled, the hood of the $70K BMW, or the roof over the master bedroom when the tree limb just has had enough.

This post is about nasty sycamores though. It ranks up there with wild honeysuckle, kuzdo and stuff. It was introduced as fast growing plant material for farm windbreaks and so forth. Pollen made its way into real forests.
 

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I would say unless your house is on a large property, clear out all shade trees and only grow trees that make sense.
One of the problems is that we plant small trees too close to our houses and/or property lines. Then suddenly it seems - 25-30 years later - that small tree has become a giant maple tree standing 20 feet from the house, and the branches hang over the roof.

I love trees, and especially love huge old trees. But you're right, they need to be managed when they're on residential property.
 

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:thumbsup: Right on. But I am a quintessential tree hugger. Put myself through school pruning and doing surgery on trees. Sometimes big ones. People forget that tree health is something they should look at every year before a limb takes out whatever slab of meat at the backyard gala being grilled, the hood of the $70K BMW, or the roof over the master bedroom when the tree limb just has had enough.

This post is about nasty sycamores though. It ranks up there with wild honeysuckle, kuzdo and stuff. It was introduced as fast growing plant material for farm windbreaks and so forth. Pollen made its way into real forests.
I love trees, but not close to the house.

I would venture to say, and guess, that maybe 95% of homewowners with large shade trees wouldn't even consider having an arborist check on their trees....certainly not on a yearly basis.
 

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One of the problems is that we plant small trees too close to our houses and/or property lines. Then suddenly it seems - 25-30 years later - that small tree has become a giant maple tree standing 20 feet from the house, and the branches hang over the roof.

I love trees, and especially love huge old trees. But you're right, they need to be managed when they're on residential property.
Yes, not just the branches, but also those darn roots that get into sewer pipes and raise sidewalks and driveways.
 
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