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Hello,

My basement has a few spotlights that seem to have a very short lifespan.
I believe they are halogen MR16 120V 35W and I'm wondering if it'd be worth changing them to LED.

From my initial research, it seems likes I'm going to need some kind of transformer that I'd connect directly to the wires in my ceiling.

Would you recommend making that change? What kind of transformer do I need for that? Anything specific I should avoid / look for?

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Florent
 

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My experience is that it is less expensive and work just to replace the lights with new slims.

You have to take the box apart, find approved drivers and purchase all new lamps.

You also might be able to find some 120 volt MR16 lamps; not sure if they would fit in your cans though.

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Well, after many tries and pick-ups at home depot (missing a few tools etc..), I ended up realizing that the lights suggested by @Nealtw (thanks for the suggestion), while they have a really nice light, the transformer does not actually fit inside the metal casing in my ceiling. Total fail on my part, I should have tried to see if it fitted before going through the trouble of connecting it. Lesson learned for next time! :smile:

Back to the halogen bulbs for now, hopefully, next time there's a massive amounts of bulbs dying, the compatible LED ones are a little more available!
 

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I’m not following you.

If you are getting that gimbal trim, it’s set up for a GU10 base Halogen bulb.
The mr16 pin base you linked to will not work in it because of the pin base. (The GU10 Pins are thicker and on a 10mm spacing. IIRC, the MR16 is thin pins on a 5.3mm spacing)

This would be a GU10 base LED that would match the socket in the gimbal.
https://www.homedepot.ca/product/philips-50w-equivalent-glass-bright-white-3000k-gu10-led-light-bulb-energy-star-4-pack-/1001111943
However, it still may not fit. Those gimbals are often very tight fitting to the GU10 halogen bulb. The GU10 LED has a slightly different profile than the halogen.

My advice is take one of the trims down to the bulb aisle and try both bulbs in the store so you can see how the halogen goes in and how much extra effort it takes to install the LED, if it goes in at all.
 

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I’m not following you.

If you are getting that gimbal trim, it’s set up for a GU10 base Halogen bulb.
The mr16 pin base you linked to will not work in it because of the pin base. (The GU10 Pins are thicker and on a 10mm spacing. IIRC, the MR16 is thin pins on a 5.3mm spacing)

This would be a GU10 base LED that would match the socket in the gimbal.
https://www.homedepot.ca/product/philips-50w-equivalent-glass-bright-white-3000k-gu10-led-light-bulb-energy-star-4-pack-/1001111943
However, it still may not fit. Those gimbals are often very tight fitting to the GU10 halogen bulb. The GU10 LED has a slightly different profile than the halogen.

My advice is take one of the trims down to the bulb aisle and try both bulbs in the store so you can see how the halogen goes in and how much extra effort it takes to install the LED, if it goes in at all.
Thanks for the quick answer @Oso954. I actually realized the same thing then you said and I edited my post, probably at the same time you answered. I wish I could go to the store and compare, but it's not really an option these days.

I ended up ordering those: https://www.rona.ca/en/ge-halogen-bulb-gu10-35-w-soft-white-3-pack-93117209-32285159
They should work, right?
 

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Well, after many tries and pick-ups at home depot (missing a few tools etc..), I ended up realizing that the lights suggested by @Nealtw (thanks for the suggestion), while they have a really nice light, the transformer does not actually fit inside the metal casing in my ceiling. Total fail on my part, I should have tried to see if it fitted before going through the trouble of connecting it. Lesson learned for next time! :smile:

Back to the halogen bulbs for now, hopefully, next time there's a massive amounts of bulbs dying, the compatible LED ones are a little more available!

Mine were 4" cans wired to 120 volts, I thru them out and replaced them with these flat ones that just clip on the drywall and wire to 120 volt. :vs_cool:
 

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The GE halogens should fit the gimbals.

Are your stores closed up there ?
I’m in Calif where hardware stores and big boxes are considered essential businesses. They are open, although they may be under reduced hours. Trips to essential businesses are OK under our stay at home rules, the government just wants them kept to a minimum.
It’s funny being in a 100,000 plus sq ft store and only seeing a few customers in it. Staffing is also cut way back, so it’s even harder than normal to find someone that really knows anything.
 

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Are your stores closed up there ?
Up here in Ontario, home centres are only open for curb side pick-up. You can order online, and a few days later, you get an email telling you to go pick-up your stuff. As inconvenient as it is, I must say I've been super impressed by the folks at my local home depot. They're very organized and the pick-up process is super easy.
 

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Quick follow-up, I had to replace one of the gimbals, and finally got it from the store. It came with a screw to GU10 adapter (see photos).
I used to have a screw base, but I had to cut the socket off. Now, I'm left with a white and a black wire coming out of the wall, and this adapter.

I could not find any information about installing this.
Should I connect my hot and neutral to the screw part of the adapter? Or just remove the screw part of the adapter just connect the wires to the ones coming out of my wall?
 

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