GFI needed in garage?
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No, they REQUIRE it to meet code
I don't appreciate the attitude in your response. I know th NEC states requirements, but as you well know (with your attitude you likely know everything) local codes can supercede NEC or they may use different year versions. My question was whether the current code REQUIRES a GFI in an attached garage.
Anyone else want to second scuby's answer?
tia,
BOb
Anyone else want to second scuby's answer?
tia,
BOb
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I have the code book, Yes they REQUIRE it
There was no tone to my post - just the facts
There was no tone to my post - just the facts
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Yes all outlets in a garage must be GFCI protected
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Re-read your 1st question
Actually your question was do they recommend it
My answer was they require it
Since you fail to indicate where you are located no-one can answer about your local code
But there are very few states that have not accepted 2008
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How can you sense an attitude in a written text? Besides, your response above really doesn't make alot of sense. Your question was "Does the NEC recommend a GFI protected outlet?" You specifically asked about the NEC, not a local code. The answer you got was "No, they REQUIRE it".
You got your answer, then attacked the answerer, I do not appreciate your attitude.
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Sorry my reply seemed "off", it was incomplete
No problem
Here's a link to state acceptance of 2008
http://www.childoutletsafety.org/files/NECAdoptionMap.pdf
I think if I had a freezer in the garage under 2005 I would have run a dedicated circuit without a GFCI
To be more clear about options:
If you are adding an outlet off of an existing GFCI breaker protected circuit then a GFCI outlet is not needed
If you are adding an outlet off the LOAD side of an existing GFCI outlet then another GFCI outlet is not needed
No problem
Here's a link to state acceptance of 2008
http://www.childoutletsafety.org/files/NECAdoptionMap.pdf
I think if I had a freezer in the garage under 2005 I would have run a dedicated circuit without a GFCI
To be more clear about options:
If you are adding an outlet off of an existing GFCI breaker protected circuit then a GFCI outlet is not needed
If you are adding an outlet off the LOAD side of an existing GFCI outlet then another GFCI outlet is not needed
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This is what I did in my basement for a freezer. I ran a dedicated outlet for the freezer, only. This is allowed (a single outlet, not a duplex) under 2005, but not 2008.
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When I built my detached garage & wired it I had to install install these to meet code.. Ever tried to run power tools with these ?? They would trip every time I used my grinder , drill, etc,.. After inspection . I removed them. When/ if I sell , I may have to re install them
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I actually have been using power tools on GFCI protected outlets building my sunroom & additions for 4+ years without tripping a single one
3/8 & 1/2" drills, circ saw, 2 different table saws, sawzall, grinder
I have some lamps that my AFCI's did not like
3/8 & 1/2" drills, circ saw, 2 different table saws, sawzall, grinder
I have some lamps that my AFCI's did not like
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That's interesting. I have run a shopvac, a jigsaw, a circular saw, a hammer drill, a refrigerator, an electric chain saw, a weed eater and a dremel from my garage's GFCI protected circuit with no trips, ever. The only thing that ever tripped it was a six inch fan.
Your a dope, something is wrong with your power tools...
I take that back, your not a dope, just not informed on what the problem is and how a GFCI really works.
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So, ummm, what's the story on the pre-fab offset?:jester:
You are correct . I'am not a dope. I do know how they work.. All my angle grinders will trip them when the brushes arc inside the grinders.. Now I didn't call anyone names.. I just said they didn't work for me. Had a bath ventilator that was tied in to gfci .. When I turned the fan off it would trip.. My electrician told me to take them out of the garage & rewire the fan where it would't be on the circuit with the gfci
Similar experience - recently had a crew onsite installing granite countertops, and their grinders would repeatedly trip a GFCI protected circuit.
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