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My house needs a new panel. It currently has a Wadsworth electric panel that is significantly corroded and 1 of the two tied together switches on the main breaker are broken. To fix it would cost much more than just pulling a permit and replacing the whole thing with a new panel. So that's what I want to do.

I've done my research on this, and feel comfortable doing it, especially since it will be inspected before the POCO turns the power back on.

Now my question: Can I wire the original (circa 1954) fuse box as a sub panel, which is the current configuration that has been in place since 1966? (I know the history, this was my grandparents house). Currently, everything but the (seldom used) electric heat and the dryer run through the main panel. My plan is to replace the main panel, move the electric range, well pump, and hot water heater from the fuse box and add a second ground rod as per current code. This is the set-up that I feel I can do in a day. This is what I would present to the inspector.

I want to do it this way because I don't want to go without electricity while I route every circuit through the main panel. The current placement of the fuse box is over the hot water heater and under plumbing, so I can't simply put a sub panel it it's place. I do plan to eliminate the fuse box entirely, I just don't think I can do it all in one day. After getting the panel replaced, my plan is to migrate circuits and add circuits as necessary to meet modern standard in the following days and weeks.

So, is my plan a good one? And is it one that will pass an inspection? PA follows NEC 2008, and my township hasn't made any amendments.
 

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Is this the "significantly corroded" panel, or a separate fuse panel? If it's the significantly corroded old panel, I would tend to just pull and replace the whole panel and not continue to use it as a sub... I mean, if the main is busted, then you shouldn't keep using it as a panel--it doesn't take that much extra time to reconnect a few circuits. An inspector might or might not raise a question about it and refuse to let you restart it until you switch it out anyway.

If it's just a question of do you have to update your fuse-panel because you replaced what's feeding it, then there's usually no need to and most inspectors probably won't even notice, or if they do will be fine especially after you tell them you're getting rid of it in the next month or so.

It's very common to keep using an old panel, either as a subpanel or as a j-box with the fuses removed.

Disclaimer: not an electrician. They will probably be along shortly.
 

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Is this the "significantly corroded" panel, or a separate fuse panel? If it's the significantly corroded old panel, I would tend to just pull and replace the whole panel and not continue to use it as a sub... I mean, if the main is busted, then you shouldn't keep using it as a panel--it doesn't take that much extra time to reconnect a few circuits. An inspector might or might not raise a question about it and refuse to let you restart it until you switch it out anyway.

If it's just a question of do you have to update your fuse-panel because you replaced what's feeding it, then there's usually no need to and most inspectors probably won't even notice, or if they do will be fine especially after you tell them you're getting rid of it in the next month or so.

It's very common to keep using an old panel, either as a subpanel or as a j-box with the fuses removed.

Disclaimer: not an electrician. They will probably be along shortly.
The significantly corroded part of this system is the 200amp main panel installed in 1966. This has the broken main breaker. When this main panel was installed, they wired the original fuse panel in a sub-panel configuration, and it has remained that way ever since. The fuse panel actually looks just fine and seems to work completely as designed, it's simply outdated technology that seems to be serving too many electrical appliances and circuits it it's present configuration.

My question is basically, can I swap out the first part of this system and use that set-up for a short time, or do I have to replace everything when I touch one part of the system?
 

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There is no reason you can't continue to use the current sub panel as sub panel in your new install.
 

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It is common to leave an old fuse box intact and run a new feed to it from a new supra-panel.

Then at your leisure, branch circuits may be moved from the fuse box (as subpanel) to the new panel.
 
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