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Can anyone tell me if there was ever a time in the past 40 years that it has been acceptable for someone to a) not use junction boxes for splices; b) not use cable clamps; c) use undersized electrical boxes; or d) no mechanical means for a splice?
I live in an old home with a somewhat modern (1970’s) addition. The addition was supposedly built to code and it was inspected (a permit was pulled) when it was completed. I finally got around to replacing the fluorescent fixtures, as well as the switches and outlets (they were all very cheap brown, backstab devices from the original install).
I thought it was going to take a few hours but it turned out that every single electrical box or junction box had something wrong with it. None of the boxes were grounded (neither were the devices, they didn’t even have ground screws), many were undersized for the # of conductors, white wires were never marked in any way to indicate they were hot (switch loops), wire nuts were often omitted (or crapily done if present), random runs of UF was present (the installer obviously had trouble working with it/many conductors had clear damage from an exacto knife), and most of the boxes only had a few inches of workable wire present.
I spent the entire weekend cleaning up the mess and then had an electrician come by for the stuff I wasn’t comfortable with.
Were there electrical codes from the 1970’s and somehow the previous owner was able to sneak it through? I can’t believe any of what I saw could possibly, in any way have been acceptable practice.
I live in an old home with a somewhat modern (1970’s) addition. The addition was supposedly built to code and it was inspected (a permit was pulled) when it was completed. I finally got around to replacing the fluorescent fixtures, as well as the switches and outlets (they were all very cheap brown, backstab devices from the original install).
I thought it was going to take a few hours but it turned out that every single electrical box or junction box had something wrong with it. None of the boxes were grounded (neither were the devices, they didn’t even have ground screws), many were undersized for the # of conductors, white wires were never marked in any way to indicate they were hot (switch loops), wire nuts were often omitted (or crapily done if present), random runs of UF was present (the installer obviously had trouble working with it/many conductors had clear damage from an exacto knife), and most of the boxes only had a few inches of workable wire present.
I spent the entire weekend cleaning up the mess and then had an electrician come by for the stuff I wasn’t comfortable with.
Were there electrical codes from the 1970’s and somehow the previous owner was able to sneak it through? I can’t believe any of what I saw could possibly, in any way have been acceptable practice.