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:censored:I am renovating the downstairs washroom in preparation for an upcoming house renovation. The downstairs washroom may be the only available for quite some time so now is the time to do it.

The pics below show the beauty decor from the previous home owner. :wallbash:

Nothing like carpet in a washroom. There was carpet in the upstairs bathroom as well and it was covering tiles as nice as the ones in the pics below.
















 

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I peeled off some wallpaper and after spraying with water, the glued paper below scraped off easily. Of coarse under that is a layer from :censored: . There's no design on it, they just left the glue layer and papered over that. It took aboout an hour to scrape off only a foot of this entity.









Anyone got a good method to romove this stuff?
 

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The floor appears to be up about an inch and a half. Not sure why this is, perhaps something to do with the drains or vents.

I pulled the shower out and found the drain installed with some goop around a 1-1/2'' copper pipe.

Is this how a shower drain is supposed to be installed?
















I will post updates as I proceed.
 

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Showers need a 2" drain. Sure hope you do not have to meet any codes in your area.
Not even close to being enough clearance for that toilet.
 

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Thanks Joe.

I need to move the drain for the shower, so I'll look into the 2''. I like to do stuff to code, not necessarily pull permits for each thing.
I'll also be getting a smaller vanity and swing the toilet 90*

I just checked and saw a 1-1/2" copper pipe coming out for venting of the 3 fixtures. Is this big enough?


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I ripped out all the carpet and two of the walls are clear of drywall.
The other two walls will get a layer of new drywall as cleaning off the old wallpaper will be slower than re drywalling the whole room. The ceiling drywall will stay.















Next thing will be to remove the fixtures and rip out the sub floor to see what kind of surprises are waiting with the drain system. :eek:
 

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That shower drain looks like someone threw a wax toilet seal in between the inside and outside. Someone did some crazy work there. Good luck with rest of it, hopefully that's all you find wrong.
 

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That shower drain looks like someone threw a wax toilet seal in between the inside and outside. Someone did some crazy work there. Good luck with rest of it, hopefully that's all you find wrong.
Oh yeah. Everything the PO did is cobbled together. I love the way he installed the dimmer switches by stripping off some insulation, wrapping another wire around the bare spot and hitting it with black tape.

Ya just got to know the drains will be whacked.
 

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looks like you got your work cut out for you there. If you want to remove wallpaper I have found using liquid fabric softener and water, works like a charm, soak the wall have a smoke and then it should come off easily. I would also recommend installing insulation for sound purposes. Also I would use cement board for the shower area unless you are going to install a standing shower kit. Will look forward to seeing your progress.
 

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looks like you got your work cut out for you there. If you want to remove wallpaper I have found using liquid fabric softener and water, works like a charm, soak the wall have a smoke and then it should come off easily. I would also recommend installing insulation for sound purposes. Also I would use cement board for the shower area unless you are going to install a standing shower kit. Will look forward to seeing your progress.

Thanks fixrite.

I've got an easier way to take down the paper and that's by rocking right over it.

I am using a stand up kit but I will use the green wallboard any way.

Anyhow, I got the light switch box moved to the inside of the washroom as it was outside before and it rubs me the wrong way having it there.






The wire was a bit short so I ran it over to a j-box in the laundry room and ran it back. I installed a double box so I can wire in the new fan.

 

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DOH!

The switch box ended up back out in the hallway. Too close to the shower.










Next order of business was getting the fan installed.





Tight fit. Just made it.







Wired up and running.







Just the fun part of the fan install left. "Drilling" a 4-1/4'' hole thru the wall beside the dryer vent.


 

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I always use solid piping for my ducting as it doesn't get clogged with lint, same as my dryer. Just something to think about for next project. The bathroom fans I install I usually buy ones that are motion activated so I have no need for a switch. They are on always but on very low, works like a dream.
 

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I always use solid piping for my ducting as it doesn't get clogged with lint, same as my dryer. Just something to think about for next project. The bathroom fans I install I usually buy ones that are motion activated so I have no need for a switch. They are on always but on very low, works like a dream.
Thanks fixrite.

I prefer hard pipe as well. The run of the flex is only 3', so no worrys. Its pulling steam only. This washroom will only be used during the house renovation. After that there will be two new full baths upstairs and its likely the shower will never be used again.
 

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I pulled the vanity and capped the pipes. The PO must have had 2 extra mirror tiles lying around and figured he had a good way to get rid of them. :huh:




I pulled the rock off the wall to the right of the vanity and then moved to the last wall behind the toilet. What a nice insulating job I found.




 

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Got a look at the drain and vent pipe routing in the wall.

I'm no expert but I think it looks OK.
2" out of the floor from the toilet and shower to a 1-1/2" where the 1-1/4" from the sink joins in. The 1-1/2" then goes out and up into the upstairs bathroom wall where it joins into a 3" stack and out the roof.









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I got the sub floor ripped out and started digging out the drain pipes from the shower and toilet.

The shower drain was 2". They had it reduced to 1-1/2'' ot the top of it.









Chunks of clay tile buried in the ground. I find stuff buried everywhere I dig on my property. I used the jackhammer to break them into bits to get them out.






Of coarse I didn't realize that I was at a "Y" intersection. I guess that's why all the pros around here tell us to hire experts. I sure hope I didn't crack anything. I will be having my buddy Kall come in to run the new pipes. He's a master plumber. He's calling a guy to scope all the drain pipes first.




Here's a pic showing all the pipes and where they are/were from and where they go.

 
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