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Hi - I'm new to solar power and want to make sure I'm getting all the correct parts, as my intension is to have a backup power supply in case power goes out (similar to what others would use a generator for). Would power small devices such as laptop, tv, etc.

Here are my parts: 1000W Solar Panel with 8.5A Controller

Power Inverter

12v Deep-cycle battery

Does this list give me everything I need or other accessories? Thank you
 

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Correct parts for what ? Are you designing this for your home or an RV ?

The first problem I see is that is a 100W panel, not a 1000w. So if you get the equivalent of 4 hours full sun a day, you will only get about 400WH a day. That is 33.33 amp hours @ 12v. (How much sun you actually get depends on how far North you are, and what time of year) You may want to size this on winter sun.

Since your battery is somewhere between 80-105 amphours (probably 80 ah since they don’t list it) you can’t charge the battery fully during a multi day outage. So, you will be limited to about 30 amp hours @12v a day. That is about 3 amp hours at 120v.

You selected inverter is a MSW inverter, not a pure sine wave inverter. Should be OK for TV and laptop, but may cause problems with other devices.
Btw, the 12.5 amps listed for the Inverter is at 120v. At 12V it is 125 amps. With losses, it would have your battery flat in less than 45 minutes if you ever ran it that hard.
 

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Correct parts for what ? Are you designing this for your home or an RV ?

You selected inverter is a MSW inverter, not a pure sine wave inverter. Should be OK for TV and laptop, but may cause problems with other devices.
Btw, the 12.5 amps listed for the Inverter is at 120v. At 12V it is 125 amps. With losses, it would have your battery flat in less than 45 minutes if you ever ran it that hard.
Designing for home as backup energy source. Do you have another inverter you can suggest for this type of panel?

Looks like this kit has the inverter: Full kit without battery

Here is another inverter that could work?

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I would get a 12v cable for your laptop to attach to the 12v battery as there will be less power load than feeding it through the inverter. A power connector for use in a car with the cigarette lighter or power port can be easily adapted.
 

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My recommendation would be to buy a 1000 or 2000w Honda inverter generator.
They run forever as long as they have gas. With the economy switch turned on, they will reduce rpm and noise at lower loads. They are the most efficient/reliable units of that size I’ve used, or friends have used.

They will supply more power continuously than your tiny solar system.

Look at yournTV for the wattage draw. You also need to look at what does the laptop draw to recharge it. Just talking about the TV, if it is 200W, on the second day of the outage, you might generate enough power to run it for 2 hours.

You need bigger panels/bigger or more batteries. How much bigger, cant say without data.

Think about either of the generators.
 

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Size your batteries

Your first task is battery sizing. First you need to get conversant at volts, amps, watts, and conversion losses. (which are to be avoided). So you can go "Ok, 60 watt laptop, that means 5 amps at 12V, minus the 20% inverter losses" etc.

Then you can get to watt-hours and amp-hours, which are units of capacity.

Then you can figure out how many watt-hours or amp-hours you need for your application.

Now, you must derate your batteries or you will quickly destroy them. With a lead-acid battery you should plan to use only 30% of its capacity. (i.e. 70% of its capacity is in reserve, and rarely used). With lithium it's reversed, you can pull them down pretty low. That makes a "watt-hour" of lithium worth a lot more than a watt-hour of lead-acid. (it is also a lot more expensive).

Stupidity during battery sizing will result in a poorly performing system that will be very frustrating and probably result in abandoning the project.

Size your panel

Now you look at how to recharge the batteries on a regular basis. It helps to talk to solar power people about local data, but you should be prepared for your system to bridge across days of poor recharge rate. (which is kinda back into "battery sizing").

You need a solar panel that's big enough to charge halfway well on cloudy days, and charge fully in decent winter days.

During summer sunny days you will probably have a glut of solar power that you will not be able to fully use. If you size the panels to only adequately recharge during ideal times, then it will under-perform the rest of the time. However making that mistake is fixable by adding more panels.

Designing a solar system is not kid-stuff. You can't just throw a bunch of random parts at it and expect a successful project that serves you well. You have to learn, plan and think. This should be the tip of the iceberg in your research. When you do, it's money well-spent.
 

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you may be fine with this setup, sometimes, if a fully sunshine 'all day' with no clouds and the battery is in great shape, condition wise... but, like all of 'real world' usage, the sun is not 'always' out, the battery is not 'always' in great condition, and it usually happens on the very day you 'need' more and more power... that's life, at least with a small 100w solar panel.

Double or triple the panel size/number, double the battery capacity and change it to two 6v Golf Cart batteries, wired in SERIES for a 12v output, and you might be on your way to a much more successful and non-stressful 'solar powered' life...
 
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