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thanks!! in my shop the single receptical 250-230-220 volt.which ever:: that runs welder, compressor ,plasma etc.plug end is the oversized looking 110 garden variety version configuration side by side prongs with the ground underneath garden variety configuration except the prongs are 1 1/4" apart.50 amp breaker, 6 wire from main breaker,all my stuff is perfectly rated for this receptical..now i have a delta unisaw 3 hp motor runs 250 v has a 30 amp plug 6-15r or p.the motor pulls 12.5 amps .??? can i simply wire the same plug on to the cord as the rest of my stuff.??50 amps to high threshold ?could it hurt the machine unisaw?hardwire a higher gauge cord?need a sub breaker??any gerus out there thanks!!!!! duncan:huh:
 

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thanks!! in my shop the single receptical 250-230-220 volt.which ever:: that runs welder, compressor ,plasma etc.plug end is the oversized looking 110 garden variety version configuration side by side prongs with the ground underneath garden variety configuration except the prongs are 1 1/4" apart.50 amp breaker, 6 wire from main breaker,all my stuff is perfectly rated for this receptical..now i have a delta unisaw 3 hp motor runs 250 v has a 30 amp plug 6-15r or p.the motor pulls 12.5 amps .??? can i simply wire the same plug on to the cord as the rest of my stuff.??50 amps to high threshold ?could it hurt the machine unisaw?hardwire a higher gauge cord?need a sub breaker??any gerus out there thanks!!!!! duncan:huh:
See below comment in a moment.

Yes, you can change the cord cap.
G17guy.,

Now that is very bad advice here.

The unisaw as the OP describing that will need 20 amp circuit and he can not plug into the 6-50R aka welder receptale due diffrent overcurrent protection there and the smaller conductors will need smaller OCPD there.

OP., Do you have this room attached to the house or detached garage the reason why I ask due there is diffrent code requirement.

Merci, Marc
 

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unisaw 220

my garage shop is separate from house has its own breaker 100 a .the 220 has a home run to the one receptical 6 gauge 50 amp breaker.any way i can multipurpose this 220 ..tone it down to 30 amp breaker without opening pandoras box and still have use of 50 amps for everything and have a 30 amp to protect the saw(2 recepticals/split sub breaker)??? .i am not to worried about the breaker blowing if the compressor goes on by itself when needed .i only intend to run one machine at a time.thanks soo much for any advise.duncan
 

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According to article 430 (motors) in the codebook, the largest breaker allowed for a 3 HP single phase motor operating at 230 volts is a 45 amp.

If you swap the 50 out for a 40 (or a 45, but that might be hard for a DIYer to find), you'll be fine.

The smallest wire allowed is #12.

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Let me expand Micromind's comment realted to the Art 430 that is legit for hardwired motours but if you have cord et plug attachement then it will be throwen out of the " window " it do not meet the critia for this useage.

So something you have to think about when you take a advanage of Art 430 and there are some restrictions in there as I mention above that is the key issue there.

Duncm.,

As Micromind explaining that feature and let me add one more comment with this if the motor do have thermal protection you are good to go otherwise you will have to put in a thermal protection one way or other to prevent the motour burnout especally if you hardwired it and use Art 430

Merci,Marc
 
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