[HTFreak]

I have a run of about 2 feet of Crown Molding (tray ceiling) as per the photos below where I want the "End/Butt" to have a nice "End/Butt" where I have a piece of Crown Molding, but I can't figure out the angle cuts.
The tradition way of cutting a 45 degree "crown molding" cut (ie see the "watchjanedrill" video where she shows you how to cut a "outside" Crown Molding corner) does not work (trust me I tried) and to get to where I am, I have had to cut a weird "acute" angle on the green piece that was probably about 60 degrees instead of 45 degrees. This should be a simple
miter cut but I can't figure it out. The "white" painted "tiny" piece that is going to be the "butt/end" is cut using the traditional way (45 degree) angle the way "seejanedrill" tells you to in the video below.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Here is the "seejanedrill" video that helped me perform the 45 degree Miter cut for the tiny white Crown Molding piece in the photos:

 

[TimPa]

when making the miter cut, pretend the base of the saw is the ceiling, and the fence of the saw is the wall. so the piece is cut "upside down" as she depicts.

on much crown moulding, the two "flats" which are the surfaces which rest against the wall and the ceiling, are not always at 90 degree angles to each other, usually less. you are going to install it so the flat is resting against the fall, then push/slide it up to meet the ceiling. in other words, the crown stays flat against the wall.

so when you cut the crown, you have to duplicate that concept. you have to hold the crown flat against the fence (wall) to get the right miter cut at 45 degrees. the crown may not be flat on the base.

what you are making is called a return. fyi cut the miter first, then cut it to length.

 

[HTFreak]

when making the miter cut, pretend the base of the saw is the ceiling, and the fence of the saw is the wall. so the piece is cut "upside down" as she depicts.

on much crown moulding, the two "flats" which are the surfaces which rest against the wall and the ceiling, are not always at 90 degree angles to each other, usually less. you are going to install it so the flat is resting against the fall, then push/slide it up to meet the ceiling. in other words, the crown stays flat against the wall.

so when you cut the crown, you have to duplicate that concept. you have to hold the crown flat against the fence (wall) to get the right miter cut at 45 degrees. the crown may not be flat on the base.

what you are making is called a return. fyi cut the miter first, then cut it to length.

Wow! I didn't expect such an expert response. Thanks for clarifying the definition of what I want (return). As far as cutting the miter first, then cutting the length, that is a great idea!!! You are definitely a Master in my eyes!!!!!!!!! Thanks again, you saved me $200! I put an ad up on Craigslist and I got offers from $60 to $200 from guys who said they would do it. Why bother when I can "DIY" it thanks to you!!! God bless.

 

[TimPa]

Wow! I didn't expect such an expert response. Thanks for clarifying the definition of what I want (return). As far as cutting the miter first, then cutting the length, that is a great idea!!! You are definitely a Master in my eyes!!!!!!!!! Thanks again, you saved me $200! I put an ad up on Craigslist and I got offers from $60 to $200 from guys who said they would do it. Why bother when I can "DIY" it thanks to you!!! God bless.

just btdt. good luck.

 

[rml63]

I have found that the blade you use can affect your final cut. Forrest WWII is really well balanced and does result in a cleaner cut compared to Frued, and other brands.

Mike

 

[firehawkmph]

Whenever I cut crown molding, I install an accessory fence on my miter saw I made out of a couple of pieces of 1/2" plywood fastened together to form a 90 degree L shape. I have a piece of parting stop that I can screw down to hold the crown in the same position every time. It is critical to getting the same cut on the crown. If the crown moves even a 1/16" when you're trying to hold it against the fence, it won't fit tight.
Mike Hawkins:smile: