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Thinking about buying a table saw but not sure what to get. $500 price range. Craftsman line looks way to cheap. Want a job site saw that packs some serious power. So far Ridgid, dewalt, Bosch, and porter cable look the best. Any advise?
 

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I bought the ridgid 4510 as my first table saw. It is the foldable model. Looked at reviews for few months then pulled the trigger this summer. Was able to use a harbor freight 20% coupon so I saved $100 on price. Used the savings to buy a nice combo blade for it. I've got nothing to compare it to, but it rocks. It is great quality and has the lifetime service agreement. just make sure you register it.
 

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For a job site saw you will be pleased with one of DeWalts saws---I have the baby one with the steel cage---Very accurate and dependable---They make a big brother with a larger table and wider rip==

Why a jobsite saw? Full size saws are safer and have wider rip capacity.
 

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I originally wanted a full size but the portability of a jobsite saw caught my eye. The jobsite saws also had a slightly higher RPM then a traditional table saw at the $500 price range. I also notice I'll only lose about 5" or rip width. Should I get a standard table saw instead? and if so which one?
 

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The larger the table ,the safer and easier it is to operate ---

Good support for the wood as it leaves the blade is the key---when the board is long it will start to tip up as you are pushing if you have a small table----

I can tolerate the danger on a job---I take the time to build an outfeed table if it's a job with lots of long rips---or pay my helper to stand and hold up the board---

However--in my shop I have a cabinet saw with an extra wing on the left and a 54 inch wide wing to the right---and a 4 foot wide out feed table---

With this large saw I can easily cut full sheets of plywood all by myself---and rip 12 foot long boards without having to press down on the board to keep it on the table---

Better quality work---far safer---get the biggest you can get if portability is not a concern---

My saw is a Grizzly 10 " cabinet saw.---
 

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Good to know I had no idea porter cable was owned by black and decker. I didn't buy a Craftsman miter saw because I found out Ryobi makes their power tools.
Ryyyyyyyyobi. It's the bees knees! I have a green one at work. Works wonders. My brother Corey uses it in the warehouse but our boss Rich keeps taking it and tossing it on the third level of the shelves and its just uncool man. I'm glad he was fired.

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Good to know I had no idea porter cable was owned by black and decker. I didn't buy a Craftsman miter saw because I found out Ryobi makes their power tools.
So is DeWalt. DeWalt is the "Professional" line of Black and Decker.

The Ridgid R4512 has gotten good reviews for a while now.

I've got the Ryobi RTS20 and while nowhere near a professional machine it is quite good and I've got a lot of projects behind it.
 

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I didn't know that about dewalt power tools either. I trust the quality of their products. I'd love to spend the price of the Ryobi but I worry about it lasting and can it handle plywood & hardwoods.
 

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my first saw was a craftsman that was actually made by ryobi.. it had plenty of power however the fence was impossible to get parrallel to the blade and keep it that way for more than 2 cuts.

the ridgid has had issues with the arbor bolt on their cabinet saw and the contractor saw is notorious for the switch burning out very early in its life

the dewalt table saw is probably the only tool they make that i like.. i hate just about everything else they make but i wont get into that. i personally own the bosch 4000 which is the earlier version of the current 4100. the only issues ive had with my bosch is non tool related.. just having guys on the crew running pressure treated lumber thorugh it when i had a fine rip blade on it for doing stain grade trim work, the saw is now 6 years old with no repairs on it yet but i do need a new stand
 

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Honestly for my price range I think the Bosch sounds like the best choice, and also has great reviews.

The blade thing is awful but people don't realize the price of a good blade until the have to buy one.

The stationary shop table saws in the $500 range don't seem to be good enough quality.
 

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I have a cheap ryobi saw, Been using it for 3 years and seems fine for what I do.
Laminate floors, filler strips for kitchens, oak stair treads, mostly small items, I have ripped a butt load of 2x4 on it.
Just saying, for a cheap $200 throwaway saw, fence is acceptable, has the power I need, is portable and easy to carry in my van.
Only issue so far is the safety switch on it, after a year of use, need to push a bit of pressure to the right when starting it up. Has been that way for 2 years and if you know the trick to start it, is no problem at all.

Not bragging about ryobi tools, only other ryobi tool I own is a biscuit joiner, 6 years old and used 3 or 4 times a year, I would prefer the dewalt for a portable table saw.
I have used the ryobi for 3 years and pleased with it,
 

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I still recomend you get a full size saw for your first saw----the little ones have a lot of power and a tiny table---fine if you know how to safely work a saw and respect it's ability to hurt you--but still an unneeded risk if you have room for a big saw.
 

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Mind is my first and only saw. With the lifetime service agreement if will bd my last saw as well. The fence is true and the blade is true as well. I built an outfeed table for it along eith a cross cut sled. I feel like I'm set.
 

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In the shop is an old craftsman, has a cast iron table and weight is in favor of a shop saw. The old craftsman saw is hard to beat, first photo is what My boss has in shop.
It sat in the yard for 2 years unprotected from the weather. Had some rust issues.
Was broke and he did not know why, was just a pain to carry the heavy saw from job to job. I found why it was not working in 15 min and then spent the rest of afternoon cleaning and oiling it, to get it functional again.
Fast forward 8 years later, We now have a shop for it to sit in, built a new cabinet on wheels to roll it around, had to replace a switch and upgraded fence on it. ... it is a great saw. It is old as dirt, but every part is easily available and replaceable and cuts true as the day it was brand new.
You can find them used cheap, then add accessories to them like a cabinet or new fence. Are tough and last forever.

We have in the past loaded it on the trailer, hauled it to the jobsite, what a pita.
It takes 2 people to walk it into the trailer. Nothing hard about it, just my cheap little saw is already in my van and will do what needs to be done.

If the motor goes out on my cheap saw, saw is going in the trash and being replaced with new saw.
If motor goes out on the craftsman, motor is being replaced.
So decide how often you need to take it on the road, if it is worth buying a throw away saw or do you want a stationary cabinet saw?
And for the record, my old saw was a 10" delta that cost $100, worked for 5 or 6 years before I burned it up ripping 16' long 2x4's.
So a cabinet saw for shop, a cheap portable saw for the road ... Then plan ahead and rip on cabinet saw for big jobs and bring ripped material with you to work.

second photo is a reconditioned craftsman for $519
pictures suck today.
First photo is here
http://c0358709.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/vault/sale/56478/1_full.jpg
second photo is here
http://s.shld.net/is/image/Sears/00...n=1&qlt=90,0&resMode=sharp&op_usm=0.9,0.5,0,0
 

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We have in the past loaded it on the trailer, hauled it to the jobsite, what a pita.
It takes 2 people to walk it into the trailer.
I have a 12V winch mounted in my trailer. If you have seen a race car trailer, you probably know what I am talking about. They use them to haul the car up into the box so it doesn't need to be driven in, because it's hard to climb out of the car when you can't open the door.

The winch makes it really easy to load heavy objects as long as you can attach the hook in a sensible place near the center of gravity. Anything on wheels that has a hook, like you could pull a cart full of materials in if you had your cart set up for that. It's like having a lift-gate that is unlimited length!
 
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