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I have a porch with an over hang already. I would like to try and close this off like a screened in area to sit and not worry about bugs etc. I need to create the side frames etc and need to put wood on the sides where the vinyl siding is to start the framing. I was hoping there was an easier way to do this without cutting the vinyl and putting a J channel on both sides to have it flush. Maybe a trim piece that is molded already and looks like it was installed like that.
My friend has his wood post just butted up to siding and has open areas where the vinyl zigzags, not a good look.
If I do have to cut the vinyl, is there an easy way to have it still on house but cut it easily. Maybe dremel tool that can make smooth cuts.
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Tape the siding so it's 2" past the post on each side.

Tape the side of the post that's facing the wall.

Install the post.

Use expandable foam to fill the void.

Cut off excess foam and paint to color choice.

Then remove tape showing.

Don't allow foam to touch any surface that you don't want it to, it may not come off.
 

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Please post a picture so we can see what your seeing.
I've seen it done the way Ron suggested and it looked like poop and ended up leaking and rotted out the wall.
4 X 4's have a tendency to curl or twist breaking the seal.
The right way is to remove the siding, make sure there's at least house wrap behind the siding, (I go one step further and add storm and Ice shield laid vertical where the post is going) then trim around it.
 
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I remember seeing a zig-zag vinyl plank made for this application, but where it is , I forget, I have CRS, sometimes.

The plank is formed to fit in the area between the post and siding, maybe the manufacturer of the siding has a similar product on their website.

Do you know who made your siding?

Try there for a zig-zag plank.


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I may be limited on what I can post since new member, do not see option yet to attach image. But it's just a 4 x 4 slapped right onto vinyl.
At ron45, that's an interesting idea. Involves no cutting and maybe foam can be removed later if taken down.

As far as cutting the vinyl, any specific cutter on a dremel recommended. Don't want to harsh for chance of splitting the vinyl. I will Google a plank. I tried looking up where the vinyl came from with its barcode printed on and model number but no luck. Although previous owner may know. We still talk cause friends.
Thanks all for replying. Good ideas
 

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I did a short Google search, but came up with nothing.

With that barcode, you have, there should be a maker too.

Yes you are needing a couple of posts before you can post pictures, you should be able to now.


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Removing siding sounds like a big deal so everyone looks for some shortcut and is sorry for ever. Figure out where it should be cut draw the line all the way up, open it and cut each piece with tin snips and remove the short pieces to the door and replace them later.
 

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Please post a picture so we can see what your seeing.
I've seen it done the way Ron suggested and it looked like poop and ended up leaking and rotted out the wall.
4 X 4's have a tendency to curl or twist breaking the seal.
The right way is to remove the siding, make sure there's at least house wrap behind the siding, (I go one step further and add storm and Ice shield laid vertical where the post is going) then trim around it.
Don't get that guy to do work for you, get a professional who cares.

Why.? Because I can't see how putting foam on the outside of siding between the siding and post could leak or cause any water or rot damage.
 

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I may be limited on what I can post since new member, do not see option yet to attach image. But it's just a 4 x 4 slapped right onto vinyl.
At ron45, that's an interesting idea. Involves no cutting and maybe foam can be removed later if taken down.

As far as cutting the vinyl, any specific cutter on a dremel recommended. Don't want to harsh for chance of splitting the vinyl. I will Google a plank. I tried looking up where the vinyl came from with its barcode printed on and model number but no luck. Although previous owner may know. We still talk cause friends.
Thanks all for replying. Good ideas
That is also the reason for the tape as well as not getting it where it's not needed.
 

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At neal, not really looking for shortcut, just wanted to see if there were other ways. The plank was nice but couldn't find anything on google at all. But seeing as its going to be a permanent fixture think ima just draw the lines and cut the siding with my snips. My other idea was to take the j channel and cut the zig zag in that and flush it up to the sides.
Just brainstorming.
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We did a dining room bump out for a dish cupboard and we just tacked a plywood cutting jig to the wall and set the depth on the circular saw with the bade in backwards and cut it.
 

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Cut the siding, then what?
There's no way easy way to nail the J molding up to the wall behind the siding.
That siding needs to be cut so there's room for it to expand and contract.
There is no magic tape that can be used that's not going to look bad and not come loose over time.
To do this right at most would be a 2 hour job for someone that knew what they where doing and it would look perfect.
Likely not going to find precut trim for this because there's many different profiles and exposures of siding, you would have to make your own by butting the material up against the siding and using a compass to transfer the profile, then have to spend time with a jigsaw cutting it all out and hope it fits tight.
By then I'd be done with the job and not have to count on caulking for a seal.
 
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