[ryanmcl]

I'm going to be building a bar in my basement and plan to put tile direct on the slab. Should i tile first and then build the bar on top or do the bar first?

 

[funfool]

Will want the bar up and running, to get the tile completed :yes:

I would build bar first, then tile or whatever floor you choose after.

 

[firehawkmph]

I would tile first, then build the bar. You have to fasten the bar down either way, so why bother cutting around it.
Mike Hawkins

 

[ryanmcl]

i kind of lean toward tile first. The reason is, what if i sell the house and the new home owners don't want a bar?

Not only will they have to remove the bar but they will need to redo the floor..

Also, if it maters i'm talking about a sizable bar with sink and electric. 6x12 L-shape :yes:

 

[HandiMandy]

If someone's buying a house with a bar that has a sink and electric, they're probably not going to be planning on ripping it out on closing.

 

[ryanmcl]

If someone's buying a house with a bar that has a sink and electric, they're probably not going to be planning on ripping it out on closing.

hahaha...great point...

 

[brockmiera]

Bar first. You will have to drill down thru your tile to secure your framing to the slab so the tile under it will have to be replaced if they decide to remove it. I personally think there is a better chance of the tiles cracking when you tighten your bottom plate down to the concrete anyway.

 

[funfool]

What I was thinking in my first post, setting a bar on top of tile that may or may not be flat. using a hammer drill to insert some sort of anchor.
It may crack drilling through it.
It could crack when you tighten it to the floor.
It might crack later just from movement and use, leaning on the bar.
It might not crack at all, it just has to many options to do so.

Is several ways to construct a bar on concrete, for me first step is always laying it out on the concrete floor and securing 2x4 to the floor. Then you have many options to stick build it, or add toe kick and cabinets.
But I like to use redheads and liquid nails on the 2x4, crank them down tight for the base.

I built a full bar for a tavern once, stopped by a couple months later to see how the owner was liking it. Was three girls dancing on it, these were not tiny petite girls if you know what I mean. :no:
I said hello to the owner, but was satisfied that it was working fine and all warranty was over.

 

[HomeSealed]

Bar first. Tile is not often replaced, but what if something happens and the floor would need to be re-done?... You'd have to pull up the bar just to get it out.

 

[ryanmcl]

After the bar is framed i would tile and put the cbinets direct on the tile correct?

 

[brockmiera]

After the bar is framed i would tile and put the cbinets direct on the tile correct?

I'm doing the same thing In my basement and I think that I will be tiling first and then putting the cabinets on the tile. I think it would be a better finished look. I can also see the argument for setting the cabinets first. You'd use a lot less tiles doing it after the cabinets are set.

I'll wait for the experts to chime in.

 

[Blondesense]

When I first read the title, I was thinking I would tile first. That way if down the road your needs change and you want to take the bar out you wouldn't have to retile.

After reading that there will be plumbing and electric in it, I would say build the bar first.

Building the bar first, you would use less tile, but it would be more work tile cutting around everything.

If you think it likely or possible someone would want to tear out the bar, and if your floor tile is cheap enough, buy enough extra and stash them somewhere. It is a good idea to keep some extras anyway.

 

[ryanmcl]

I'm doing the same thing In my basement and I think that I will be tiling first and then putting the cabinets on the tile. I think it would be a better finished look. I can also see the argument for setting the cabinets first. You'd use a lot less tiles doing it after the cabinets are set.

I'll wait for the experts to chime in.

I don't think untreated wood is advisable direct on the slab that was me reasoning for it.

 

[brockmiera]

I don't think untreated wood is advisable direct on the slab that was me reasoning for it.

Good Point. I didn't even think of that!

 

[cleveman]

Tile first, then the bar.

You can keep your drinks in a cooler or something for the interim period.

This is called "roughing it".

 

[ryanmcl]

not sure if it matters but the area to be tiled is approx 300 sq ft.

Here is the floor plan:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/123277122/Basement-v20-Sh3d-FINAL

Good thing is i have several months to ponder this as it will take me that long to insulate/frame the basement.