[farmerjohn1324]

This is the pipe that enters the house. It should eventually be attached to the well. It was left stubbed out by the plumbers but broken off by someone. The pipe in the ground is just a marker. It's not connected to anything. That's the pipe that was broken. The pipe is broken pretty far in the hole. What kind of concrete work would be necessary to be able to glue a coupling to it? Also, there's some dried stucco in there. I don't know how to get it out other than cutting the pipe from the inside, which would require cutting through drywall. Is there a way to suction it out?

 

[Windows on Wash]

Much easier to fix from the interior vs. repair stucco.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Much easier to fix from the interior vs. repair stucco.

What if I told you they're coming back to do touch ups on stucco anyway?

 

[ClarenceBauer]

As for coupling the pipe you can use an inside coupling.
For the cement in side the pipe depends on how thick it is. Also is it in an elbow?

 

[farmerjohn1324]

As for coupling the pipe you can use an inside coupling.
For the cement in side the pipe depends on how thick it is. Also is it in an elbow?

It's a little rock about 3/4" in diameter. It's not currently in an elbow. Although it could be if I keep pushing it.

What do you mean by inside coupling? Do you have a link?

 

[hkstroud]

Assuming PVC pipe.
Get the rock out.

Enlarge the hole in the stucco just enough to accept a coupling.

Cut the pipe inside the wall with an inside pipe cutter. Cut in the center of the wall so you have enough room between end of the pipe and the exterior wall to prime and glue pipe.

Glue a stop coupling onto a length of PVC pipe. Dry fit this to the pipe inside the wall to enssure that everything connects properly.

Prime the interior of the coupling and then the exterior of the pipe inside the wall. Put glue inside the coupling and then on the exterior of the pipe inside the wall. (Glue and primer dry faster on the exterior of the pipe than it does inside the coupling.)
Push coupling onto pipe inside the wall.


May be necessary to purchase a pint size glue and primer to get swab long enough to reach pipe inside the wall.



Inside pipe cutter
https://www.acehardware.com/departm...TMTU1yXb1vL_zXAblAxoChwQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Assuming PVC pipe.
Get the rock out.

Enlarge the hole in the stucco just enough to accept a coupling.

Cut the pipe inside the wall with an inside pipe cutter. Cut in the center of the wall so you have enough room between end of the pipe and the exterior wall to prime and glue pipe.

Glue a stop coupling onto a length of PVC pipe. Dry fit this to the pipe inside the wall to enssure that everything connects properly.

Prime the interior of the coupling and then the exterior of the pipe inside the wall. Put glue inside the coupling and then on the exterior of the pipe inside the wall. (Glue and primer dry faster on the exterior of the pipe than it does inside the coupling.)
Push coupling onto pipe inside the wall.


May be necessary to purchase a pint size glue and primer to get swab long enough to reach pipe inside the wall.



Inside pipe cutter
https://www.acehardware.com/departm...TMTU1yXb1vL_zXAblAxoChwQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Assuming PVC pipe.
Get the rock out.

Enlarge the hole in the stucco just enough to accept a coupling.

Cut the pipe inside the wall with an inside pipe cutter. Cut in the center of the wall so you have enough room between end of the pipe and the exterior wall to prime and glue pipe.

Glue a stop coupling onto a length of PVC pipe. Dry fit this to the pipe inside the wall to enssure that everything connects properly.

Prime the interior of the coupling and then the exterior of the pipe inside the wall. Put glue inside the coupling and then on the exterior of the pipe inside the wall. (Glue and primer dry faster on the exterior of the pipe than it does inside the coupling.)
Push coupling onto pipe inside the wall.


May be necessary to purchase a pint size glue and primer to get swab long enough to reach pipe inside the wall.



Inside pipe cutter
https://www.acehardware.com/departm...TMTU1yXb1vL_zXAblAxoChwQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Any tips on how to get the rock out? It's basically the exact diameter of the pipe. I don't think I can even fit a paperclip in there if I unbent it.

My only other option is to take down this cement board from the inside. I'll do that if I have to.

 

[jmon]

Did you try pushing it out with a long broom stick/small pipe, etc. from the inside out? Use hammer if you have to.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Did you try pushing it out with a long broom stick/small pipe, etc. from the inside out? Use hammer if you have to.

Well yeah from the inside is no problem. I was wondering if I could get it out from the outside

 

[jmon]

Any tips on how to get the rock out? It's basically the exact diameter of the pipe. I don't think I can even fit a paperclip in there if I unbent it.

My only other option is to take down this cement board from the inside. I'll do that if I have to.

I guess i'm not following you. Why take down the cement board. Can't you just insert the broom stick, etc right into the pipe from the inside and pop it out?

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Any tips on how to get the rock out? It's basically the exact diameter of the pipe. I don't think I can even fit a paperclip in there if I unbent it.

My only other option is to take down this cement board from the inside. I'll do that if I have to.

I guess i'm not following you. Why take down the cement board. Can't you just insert the broom stick, etc right into the pipe from the inside and pop it out?

The pipe is behind the cement board

 

[jmon]

The pipe is behind the cement board

Ok, sorry about that. the picture is misleading it looks like the pipe is visible in hole in wall.

 

[ClarenceBauer]

Where does the interior end of this pipe terminate?
Is it a single pipe with no branch offs?
Using the open end on the inside install a fitting to this pipe only, than using water pressure or a LARGE volume of air released at once should blow the cement out to the exterior.
My guess is that the Stucco was applied with a plaster pump & the Stucco crew just sprayed over it or just troweled over it.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Where does the interior end of this pipe terminate?
Is it a single pipe with no branch offs?
Using the open end on the inside install a fitting to this pipe only, than using water pressure or a LARGE volume of air released at once should blow the cement out to the exterior.
My guess is that the Stucco was applied with a plaster pump & the Stucco crew just sprayed over it or just troweled over it.

It feeds the entire house with potable water. Every place it stubs out is capped off. So I could cut one of the stubs. It's probably a good bet that this stub (red arrow in pic) is one of the first that's fed.

So air compressor with blow gun?
Or hose with jet nozzle?

 

[ClarenceBauer]

Note I stated A straight run pipe NO BRANCH OFFS.
If you don't have access to the plumbing on the interior before the distribution manifold DO NOT USE AIR PRESSURE. You can only use air pressure if it is one way in & one way out for the AIR PRESSURE NO OTHER LINES were the air can go.

 

[hkstroud]

First thing to try is a shop vac.
Stick shop vac hose over pipe up against stucco.

If that doesn't work, get a short piece of vinyl tubing slightly smaller than the interior diameter of the pipe. Put that in the end of your shop vac hose. Tape vinyl tubing and shop vac hose together with duct tape to make the connection air tight.

Stick vinyl tubing in pipe up against rock and turn vac on. If that doesn't pull rock forward, tape connection between vinyl tubing and pipe. That should make shop vac pull air from other side of rock.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

First thing to try is a shop vac.

I'm just gonna take the cement board down. Not too difficult.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

This is the pipe going into the house. It will eventually be connected to the well.

I got the concrete out by breaking it up from the inside and blowing the pieces out with compressed air.

Now I had to enlarge the hole and cut about 1" of pipe of to make room for coupling.

I cut with a Dremel attachment that I used as an "inside pipe cutter."

After cutting, I saw that I nicked the pipe further down in one place. The drill blocks the hole while I'm cutting so it's hard to see. I was certain this was a hole straight through the pipe, but it wasn't. I tested by placing water there.

Is there a product that I can put there, like a "liquid plastic" that will harden and fill the cut in the pipe?

I Googled and found a product by Oatey called Fix-it-Stick. Will this work?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Oatey-Fix-...7g3Ld7KBZkjqv4whcD93FteP8aqoa5vBoCMRgQAvD_BwE

 

[huesmann]

How far down is the nick? I'd be tempted to just run a PVC sleeve down over it and glue in place.