bathtub and surround project
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That tub should have been covered with cardboard before doing any of that demo. It may be damaged already.
Makes no since to me to try and work over a pile of trash like that.
Your going to have to strip that down to the studs, kill all the mold and replace any rotted wood.
Shim out the studs until it even with the lip on the tub.
Insulate any outside walls.
The best enclosers are nailed to the studs with roofing nails and sheetrock is used above the enclosure.
The cheap thin ones get glued up over Green board. (moisture resistant drywall)
Both will need to be shimed to make up for the space lost space from removing the old tile and mud.
Makes no since to me to try and work over a pile of trash like that.
Your going to have to strip that down to the studs, kill all the mold and replace any rotted wood.
Shim out the studs until it even with the lip on the tub.
Insulate any outside walls.
The best enclosers are nailed to the studs with roofing nails and sheetrock is used above the enclosure.
The cheap thin ones get glued up over Green board. (moisture resistant drywall)
Both will need to be shimed to make up for the space lost space from removing the old tile and mud.
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I think what Joe was trying to say is, why bother touching the same rubbish twice? The insulation could have been deposited into a garbage bag the first time it was handled. But never mind you work the way you see fit.
Since I don't speak graffitieze I was wondering what does it say?
Since I don't speak graffitieze I was wondering what does it say?
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Just a pet peave I have I can not stand a dirty job site.
A dirty site is a dangerest site. I have trash cans, trash bags and dump trailer on site even before the tools get there.
A dirty site is a dangerest site. I have trash cans, trash bags and dump trailer on site even before the tools get there.
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Every single customer has mentioned it.
At the end of the day 99% of the time at the end of the day there's 0 trash left any place.
When stripping a roof I have people on the ground cleaning up as fast as it falls.
All it takes is one trip or one nail in the foot to ruin someones day.
At the end of the day 99% of the time at the end of the day there's 0 trash left any place.
When stripping a roof I have people on the ground cleaning up as fast as it falls.
All it takes is one trip or one nail in the foot to ruin someones day.
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It's impossible to get them all.
When your using that stripping shovel and poping the nails they can fly a long ways.
When your using that stripping shovel and poping the nails they can fly a long ways.
Ya, it might have been a good idea to bag it all as I went. Thats what Ill be doing today. As far as the tub, I plan on getting a new one.
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Based on the 'writing on the wall', I'm guessing this was one of those foreclosed houses?
As for clean up....I have found that it's a lot easier to clean up as I go....it helps me find all the tools I misplaced, and it makes it a lot easier to work.
I've pretty much worn out my shop vac on this project.....
As for clean up....I have found that it's a lot easier to clean up as I go....it helps me find all the tools I misplaced, and it makes it a lot easier to work.
I've pretty much worn out my shop vac on this project.....
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When doing work like that make sure you use a real shop vac not your home vac, unless you want to have to go buy a new one.
I've had good luck with the Ridgid brand vac's. Do not buy the smaller one, hard to find the filters and the hose is to small and stays plugged up.
I've had good luck with the Ridgid brand vac's. Do not buy the smaller one, hard to find the filters and the hose is to small and stays plugged up.
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Quickest way to piss off the wife is to use her nice carpet vac.....
Like Joe said...get the larger one....I think the hose is 2.5"....you'll spend less time clear blockages.
I have one of the smaller "Shop Vac" portable jobs...fine for dragging into small places, but I spend a lot of time clearing the hose of obstructions.
One suggestion.....get one of those 'rags' you can put over the filter.....especially if your sucking up drywall dust....the filter will last longer.....but you have to clean the rag off a bit more often....which is a lot easier to do than the main filter.
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They sell drywall bags just for this.
Cheese cloth also works.
Cheese cloth also works.
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HD sell those? I'll be starting drywall in about 4 weeks....I hope.
I have a question, why did this happen? Was the tile not installed properly or does this always happen over time?
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This is outstanding advice
Tile and grout are not water proof----some moisture can work its way through----
If the wall is made of plaster or gypsum board---it will get wet and eventually rot.
A modern shower/tub uses cement board and in an ideal situation--the board is also water proofed with a paint on water proofing ,like Red Guard or is covered with a surface membrane like Schluter Kerdi---
There are other materials available---but water proofing is key to building a wall that will last --
Also----bucket mastic must not be used---the new formulas will desolve and grow mold if wet---use powdered thinset only---
Well, this place was built in 82. I dont know how waterproof they were building showers back then. So it sounds like this was bound to happen?
Something else I just noticed. It looks like there would be no way in hell to get a new tub in there, the bathroom is too narrow. I know I can cut up the old tub but how am I going to get a new one in there?
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I would say the wall got wet and the tiles didnt have anything to stick to.I would tear it all out including the tub hard to say how much more water damage there is.It makes no scense to fix the walls than a year later the tub falls thru the floor because its water damaged.
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