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Building a 30’x40’ garage. Realized after framing that building is out of square over 6”. All wall are same length, but it is out of square over 6”. Should I tear down all the framing & remove the concrete block footing & start all over? This is a real headache. I thought I had some professional brick layers laying block, but they made one wall 1” higher than the other. I fixed that. Now the building is crooked! What is best to do? I haven’t put up Trusses yet. Thank you
 

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Are you bldg. on top of the slab or on top of just footings that you will pour the slab up against at a later time? If you're bldg. on top of a slab I would probably go ahead and keep going. If you are just on top of footings I would probably go ahead and start over. Have you discussed the problem with the Mason? If so what did he have to say.
 

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Building a 30’x40’ garage. Realized after framing that building is out of square over 6”. All wall are same length, but it is out of square over 6”. Should I tear down all the framing & remove the concrete block footing & start all over? This is a real headache. I thought I had some professional brick layers laying block, but they made one wall 1” higher than the other. I fixed that. Now the building is crooked! What is best to do? I haven’t put up Trusses yet. Thank you
Would be hard to see by just looking at it
Did you measure from corner to corner and find a 6" difference. That would be 3" out of square??
 

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Like Neal mentioned, it's probably only technically 3" out of square, but that's still HUGE IMO. It's easy to build walls on something this far out of square, but everything you do from here on out is going to get more complicated by this. You're going to have a miserable time with the roof sheathing, soffit, any interior finishes, etc.

If you literally hired a legitimate contractor (you have a contract, paid them on the books, they have a legal business, etc..) I'd call them and ask them what they propose..........

PS, I've laid a TON of block frost walls around those dimensions. Pretty easy for a decent mason to notice it's out of square while building the corner leads. The short leads won't range correctly with the 8" corner return, and they had to be fighting it the whole time. That would have been the time for them to pause and pull out the tape measure again........
 

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Left alone the gables and look out would be out of square the rest of the trusses could be corrected to square. The correction for 3" would be 1 1/2" at each corner so 3/4" at the peak with at least 4 maybe 5 sheets to the peak so each sheet would be 3 /16 off at the over hang and those sheets that go out are usually cut edges anyway so no real problem.

If fixing it is really important the easiest might be to cut the short corners and kick the short corners out 1 1/2" so the framing sits off the foundation a little.
 

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Are you bldg. on top of the slab or on top of just footings that you will pour the slab up against at a later time? If you're bldg. on top of a slab I would probably go ahead and keep going. If you are just on top of footings I would probably go ahead and start over. Have you discussed the problem with the Mason? If so what did he have to say.
I’m building on top of footer. I’m thinking it’s best to start over. It was my work buddies that are brick layers over 10 years. I would have thought they knew what they were doing, obviously not.
 

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I measured to square it in every way. It’s way out of square
That is not information.

Did you measure corner to corner on the angle and find one way was 12" more than the other.
That would be 6" out of square.


Did you do that at the bottom sill plate or the top one.
 

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Just measure from corner to corner. Or use A squared plus B squared equals C squared which in your case equals 50'.
No matter how you determine it, if it is 6" out of square you will need to tear down and rebuild.
 

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This is what I have so far. So I’m thinking I will have to knock everything down & dig everything up (block work) and start all over. My buddies are costing me $8,500. Very disappointed with their bad block work!
 
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