[123pugsy]

I have a whole house to primer and I saw wider rollers, look like about 14".
Any good?

I read someone mentioned about dunking their roller right into the 5 gallon bucket.
Any thoughts on this? It sounds easier than to keep refilling a tray.

How about brush size for cutting in corners?
What do you use to hold the paint when cutting the corners? Is there a belt with a little can joined to it that straps around your waist? :vs_worry:

How about all the drywall dust? Any tips for getting it off the walls and ceilings?

 

[mathmonger]

I have a whole house to primer and I saw wider rollers, look like about 14".
Any good?

I read someone mentioned about dunking their roller right into the 5 gallon bucket.
Any thoughts on this? It sounds easier than to keep refilling a tray.

How about brush size for cutting in corners?
What do you use to hold the paint when cutting the corners? Is there a belt with a little can joined to it that straps around your waist? :vs_worry:

How about all the drywall dust? Any tips for getting it off the walls and ceilings?

There might be a 14 out there, but 18 inches is the most common big roller size. They are not that great for most residential use. Too many corners and windows and doors. You don't really see the benefit. The are also really heavy.

You never want to DUNK your roller in the bucket. You'll have a sloppy, dripping mess. You might want to get another bucket and put SOME paint in there and use a paint grid. A lot of guys do it that way.

http://thehousingguru.com/images/painttools_bucketgrid.jpg

I prefer just using a big tray. The bucket requires that you walk over to the bucket and insert your roller straight down. With a big roller tray and a big stick screwed into your roller frame you can paint top to bottom and reload from across the room.

I use the 2" Wooster Shortcut brush. A lot of pros will advocate for something bigger. In theory, maybe a 4" brush holds more paint and you could be more productive with it. But that is only true if you can control it.

There is a reason the Wooster Shortcut has the reviews that it does:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wooster-Shortcut-2-in-Polyester-Angle-Sash-Brush-0Q32110020/100357411

The Handy Pail doesn't strap to your waist, but it straps to your hand. And it has a magnet to hold your brush out of the paint. And you can get liners for it, so you don't even have to wash it.

http://www.bercomincorporated.com/wp-content/uploads/handy-paint-pail-inuse1.jpg

For the drywall dust, I'd use a vacuum with a brush, a swiffer, a soft bristle broom, a broom with a towel over it, or the Radius360 dusting pad. Or some combination. It's tedious. I think vacuuming the walls is the most satisfying. If you use a separate drywall primer, getting all the dust is not so critical.

 

[123pugsy]

There might be a 14 out there, but 18 inches is the most common big roller size. They are not that great for most residential use. Too many corners and windows and doors. You don't really see the benefit. The are also really heavy.

You never want to DUNK your roller in the bucket. You'll have a sloppy, dripping mess. You might want to get another bucket and put SOME paint in there and use a paint grid. A lot of guys do it that way.

http://thehousingguru.com/images/painttools_bucketgrid.jpg

I prefer just using a big tray. The bucket requires that you walk over to the bucket and insert your roller straight down. With a big roller tray and a big stick screwed into your roller frame you can paint top to bottom and reload from across the room.

I use the 2" Wooster Shortcut brush. A lot of pros will advocate for something bigger. In theory, maybe a 4" brush holds more paint and you could be more productive with it. But that is only true if you can control it.

There is a reason the Wooster Shortcut has the reviews that it does:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wooster-Shortcut-2-in-Polyester-Angle-Sash-Brush-0Q32110020/100357411

The Handy Pail doesn't strap to your waist, but it straps to your hand. And it has a magnet to hold your brush out of the paint. And you can get liners for it, so you don't even have to wash it.

http://www.bercomincorporated.com/wp-content/uploads/handy-paint-pail-inuse1.jpg

For the drywall dust, I'd use a vacuum with a brush, a swiffer, a soft bristle broom, a broom with a towel over it, or the Radius360 dusting pad. Or some combination. It's tedious. I think vacuuming the walls is the most satisfying. If you use a separate drywall primer, getting all the dust is not so critical.

Wow! Great info Math.

Thank you.

 

[chrisn]

Glad I didn't have to type all that out. I would have been done for the day:laughing:

 

[ToolSeeker]

I would rather use the 14" roller it is made like a 9" (open on 1 end) so it will get into the corners unlike an 18". Will need a pan it won't go into a bucket. And an 18" bucket and roller frame is kinda pricey.

Really like the handy pail for cutting.

 

[123pugsy]

I picked up a Handy Pail and some new standard size rollers.
Some 4" refills also to roll out the cut stripes that get brushed on.
A couple of 2" brushes also. One's a Purdy and the other is a medium priced jobbie, but the quality seems every bit as good as the Purdy. Will do a test with each to see. :wink2:

 

[mathmonger]

I picked up a Handy Pail and some new standard size rollers.
Some 4" refills also to roll out the cut stripes that get brushed on.
A couple of 2" brushes also. One's a Purdy and the other is a medium priced jobbie, but the quality seems every bit as good as the Purdy. Will do a test with each to see. :wink2:

The strap on the Handy Pail is adjustable. I always forget that when I get a new one. Adjust it for a good fit.

Did you get a 4 inch roller frame? The way you wrote it, it sounds like you are going to put a 4 inch cover on a 9 inch frame which would be pretty awkward.

There are all different kinds of brushes. Did you get nylon? Nylon/poly? Chinex? Hog bristle? Oval ferrule or rectangular ferrule? Angled sash or flat? Thick or thin? Were the fibers chemically treated to soften the tips? Were the bristles sanded? What type of handle? How heavy is the brush? There are a million variables beyond the size and the name on the handle. Even Purdy isn't what it used to be.

I really recommend you at least give the Wooster Shortcut a try. They are only 6 bucks.

 

[lexdiamond20]

Dreaded painting my ceilings so I invested in a 12" roller and 12-18 adjustable roller frame. After cutting in with a 2.5 Purdy and a 4" roller, ripped through each ceiling in less than an hour. Only downside is the frame. its about the same weight as a regular 9" frame, but each end is enclosed so it doesn't get in close in the corners. Hence the use of a 4" roller after cutting with the brush.

 

[123pugsy]

The strap on the Handy Pail is adjustable. I always forget that when I get a new one. Adjust it for a good fit.

Did you get a 4 inch roller frame? The way you wrote it, it sounds like you are going to put a 4 inch cover on a 9 inch frame which would be pretty awkward.

There are all different kinds of brushes. Did you get nylon? Nylon/poly? Chinex? Hog bristle? Oval ferrule or rectangular ferrule? Angled sash or flat? Thick or thin? Were the fibers chemically treated to soften the tips? Were the bristles sanded? What type of handle? How heavy is the brush? There are a million variables beyond the size and the name on the handle. Even Purdy isn't what it used to be.

I really recommend you at least give the Wooster Shortcut a try. They are only 6 bucks.

Thanks for the tips.

I have 4" roller frames already.

Angled brush with some kind of nylon or...?? not sure. I ran them across my hand and took two that felt the smoothest.
Wood handles.

I believe Purdy is sailing along on it's past history and are probably the same quality as the brush I paid half the amount for. I could be wrong of course, but I'm finding this with all companies now. Vise Grip is a prime example.

Unfortunately, up here in Canada, we don't get the excellent selection you guys in the States are lucky enough to get.
Canadian HD, does not carry the Woosters.

 

[123pugsy]

Dreaded painting my ceilings so I invested in a 12" roller and 12-18 adjustable roller frame. After cutting in with a 2.5 Purdy and a 4" roller, ripped through each ceiling in less than an hour. Only downside is the frame. its about the same weight as a regular 9" frame, but each end is enclosed so it doesn't get in close in the corners. Hence the use of a 4" roller after cutting with the brush.

Thanks.
The big frames they sell here are the same, closed on both ends. I think they don't have cross supports either, only held on at each end. I'll tough it out with the regular size I guess.

 

[ToolSeeker]

Since we're talking about primer here why are you cutting in the corners, just roll the corner with your regular roller.

 

[mathmonger]

Thanks for the tips.

I have 4" roller frames already.

Angled brush with some kind of nylon or...?? not sure. I ran them across my hand and took two that felt the smoothest.
Wood handles.

I believe Purdy is sailing along on it's past history and are probably the same quality as the brush I paid half the amount for. I could be wrong of course, but I'm finding this with all companies now. Vise Grip is a prime example.

Unfortunately, up here in Canada, we don't get the excellent selection you guys in the States are lucky enough to get.
Canadian HD, does not carry the Woosters.

Canada, huh? Yeah, that makes it a little harder.

I think Purdy makes extra cheap brushes specifically for sale in Home Depot. I don't buy them there. Not the end of the world. You can make it work. It's just paint.

If you do wind up looking for another brush, Zibra is another good one that you might want to check out. My Home Depot sells it. I dunno about yours.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zibra-2-in-Angled-Sash-Trim-Brush-PB200LT/100576042

 

[ddawg16]

Make sure you allow for beer budget......it's going to take a lot of beers to paint that.

Too bad I'm not closer. I'd come over and help. I actually don't mind that part. It's what I call mindless activity...but I like seeing the results afterwards.

You paint a couple of walls.....have a beer to admire your work. Paint a couple more walls....have another beer while you admire your work.....repeat as necessary.

 

[mathmonger]

Make sure you allow for beer budget......it's going to take a lot of beers to paint that.

Too bad I'm not closer. I'd come over and help. I actually don't mind that part. It's what I call mindless activity...but I like seeing the results afterwards.

You paint a couple of walls.....have a beer to admire your work. Paint a couple more walls....have another beer while you admire your work.....repeat as necessary.

The best beer for painting is Stella Artois.

 

[ddawg16]

The best beer for painting is Stella Artois.

:smile:

Or Indio.....or Heiniken.....or anything but American.

 

[123pugsy]

Since we're talking about primer here why are you cutting in the corners, just roll the corner with your regular roller.

I've never tried rolling right into the corners before.
I'll have to check this out.
I assumed I would need to use the brush into the corners.

 

[123pugsy]

:smile:

Or Indio.....or Heiniken.....or anything but American.

Damn, I cut myself off a long while ago. I'll have to pop a Barq's root beer instead. :wink2: