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I cannot find the amperage of these appliaces anywhere on the Ikea site and the electricians that are quoting me over the phone are asking me what is it. Its nowhere in the manual either. One section says to use 12 gauge copper wire only for the built -in oven? isnt 12 gauge way too small (20amps)
These are the items
http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/50288589/
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http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10288690/

For the cooktop am I correct by doing the following:
2500+1800+1200+1200=6700
6700/240V=27.9A?
 

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I doubt you'll find amperage listed but listed below is one of their ceramic 4 element cook tops in wattage. They seem to be a little stingy with their oven information.

2x1200 W radiant zones.
1x2500W radiant zone.
1x3000W radiant zone.
Voltage: 208-240V.
 

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Do you have the appliances ? If so, give the electricians the info off of the nameplate.
I do not, I am planning to buy them but I wanted to see which to buy considering our available voltage/electrical.
I have been searching the net and the standard seems to be 40amps for both the cooktops and wall ovens. Does this sound right?
 

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They do things differently in Europe. I'm not sure I would trust any specs they provided.

It would need to be a very small or under-powered oven to work on 20 amps. There are some Baker's Pride ovens that do work on a 20 amp dedicated outlet but they have a very small box and a ton of insulation.

Edit: I looked up a Whirlpool unit (Model #: W5CE3024XB) on lowes.com and it calls for a 40 amp 8 gauge copper circuit.

A single oven had this to say in the manual

Models rated from 7.3 to 9.6 kW at 240 volts (5.5 to
7.2 kW at 208 volts) require a separate 40-amp circuit.
Models rated at 7.2 kW and below at 240 volts (5.4 kW
and below at 208 volts) require a separate 30-amp circuit
 

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They do things differently in Europe. I'm not sure I would trust any specs they provided.

It would need to be a very small or under-powered oven to work on 20 amps. There are some Baker's Pride ovens that do work on a 20 amp dedicated outlet but they have a very small box and a ton of insulation.

Edit: I looked up a Whirlpool unit (Model #: W5CE3024XB) on lowes.com and it calls for a 40 amp 8 gauge copper circuit.

A single oven had this to say in the manual
If the oven does require a 30 amp circuit, am I ok just installing it on the existing 40 amp circuit?
 

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Ok so I found this online after calling ikea and getting the whirlpool model number (apparently ikea appliances are re-branded whirlpool appliances)
The rep on the phone said the cooktop needs 40amps

The model number for the wall oven is IBS350DS
The specs say it draws 15.4 amps at 240V? SO a 20 amp circuit for a wall oven? This sounds really low.
The rep on the phone said the cooktop needs 40amps
 

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At those amps you will be fine on a 20.

They have some really small ovens in Europe. I suggest you see one of these in person before you order.

Though most ovens only have a single element so it makes sense 4 elements on top need 40. One larger one in the oven only needs 20.

A lot homes have 4 burners and an oven on 40. Newer homes usually have a 50 for the combo unit.

Heating loads tend to use a smaller wire than some normal things. I can't explain why. Maybe one of the Sparky's will pop in.
 

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Cook tops usually draw around 30 amps @240v and ovens usually draw around 20A @240v. At least the ones I've been putting in have. It's always better to have the appliance or at least download the installation manual. I did an oven once that spec'd 15 amps at 240v in the manual. After it was delivered and time to get installed it had a warning label on the whip that said 8 gauge copper was the minimum to connect it to. WTH!
 

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No way would I be buying anything electrical from Ikea!
Different color codes, odd ball voltage needs, good luck trying to get any local service.
 
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Well I had the electrician come in and install everything. he brought 240V 20 amps to the built in oven and 240V 40 amps to the cook top.
The top is working fine but the oven is not heating up.
Do I have to increase the amperage? How high can I go on the breaker safely? The wire its installed on is the existing #8 from the old stove.
Can I have him throw the old 40 amp breaker back in?
 

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Ok had a friend figure it out! Turns out the electrician messed something up but I am too confused to know what exactly went wrong. Oven works now so my wifes happy.
Not a good sign when your electrician "messes something up". Was he licensed? Now you have to wonder what else he did wrong. Running a 240v branch line is duck soup for a real electrician.
 
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