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I hired a contractor to rip off old stairs and install a deck. The deck companies recommended freestanding deck ( 33 inches off ground). The contractor I hired ended up installing ledger board. But I have previous Woodrot behind the ledger board. My house is t1-11 painted siding built in 1976.

Question - did the contractor attach ledger board correctly
If not how do I fix this?

What type of contractor will fix the :surprise: wood rot and how can I find them in town?
 

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Stop the deck construction ---

The ledger needs to be removed in order to repair that rot----

then the ledger needs to be flashed in to keep water from getting behind the board.

I see a lot wrong in that picture---lets see what other members have to suggest.
 

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I have to say I see this approach ALL TOO OFTEN. Slap in the deck and take their money and run. You are actually worse off now than when you started.

Remove the deck, get your permit, go back to a free standing deck, and repair the rot. When you start that repair you will most likely find it is a much larger area that needs help.

Too much to go into right now.
Can you do any of the work?

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I used to make a ton of money going back and fixing decks built wrong like that.
As mentioned there is no quick easy way to fix that mess, it all needs to come out to fix the old damage.
Door also should have been removed to repair the likely damage under it, add a sill pan and proper flashing, and add a support under the threshold on the outside wall.
http://jamsill.com/
T-111 should not be within 6" of and solid surface to prevent splash back damage.
That old rotten drip cap can be removed so it no longer gives water a place to sit and soak up into the end grain, or replaced with PVC cap.
http://flexiblemouldingconcepts.com/drip-cap-3297.html
 

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Post some other pictures of the rest of the deck so we can see how there supporting it on the ground.
I figure if they messed up this deck building 101 part there's more bad stuff going on.
 

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Anyone who attaches a good piece of lumber to that crap is disrespecting not only the customer, but the name of good contractors and carpenters all around. It is so hard to find people who will do good work nowadays. You can tell they're bad from the offset pencil lines and method of construction. Not sure if anyone missed it but he's also using a 2x2 scrap to support the weight of all the joists as well... Looks like he's trying to save costs so he doesn't need to use wider lumber, god awful construction.

Here's an example of how to do it right by Tom Silva:

Note that he uses large lag screws, bituthene flashing, joist hangers, 4x4 posts, and all lumber is pressure treated. It should slope away from the house slightly to run water away from foundation.
 

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As others have stated. When building a deck

1.) The ledger needs weatherproofing behind it, can't be aluminum (aluminum was allowed in the past when pressure treated didn't eat metals like crazy). Todays pressure treated eats metal like candy, it's why you can't use just galvanlized screws/nails for the structural components they will be toothpicks in short order. If you want your deck to last more than 10-15 years you should use stainless hardware. Todays PT is so corrosive to metals they've found even galvanized is having trouble holding up and beginning to sell double-dipped galvanized. Could I do my deck again, I'd pay the extra for stainless hardware. Moisture increases the speed at which PT eats metal so stainless would be particularly advantageous in wetter places.

2.) To attach the ledger to the rim joist the rim joist must be sound and lags or bolts used. There's specific requirements to spacing of lags and bolts along with their size and they must be visible from the inside for the inspector to make sure they penetrated. If you can't prove they penetrate to the inside (say the inside room is finished) then you must use special lags/screws called LedgerLok (sold pretty much everywhere) whose heads are stamped. When the inspector comes and see's the stamp on the heads he knows you used an engineered product specifically designed for attaching decks safely to the rim joist and no need for them to verify you penetrated the inside.

3.) The posts for railings must be 4x4 PT, not notched (there's a very high horizontal load requirement that 4x4's just meet. Notch them and they will be too weak to meet the requirement). They must be bolted with 1/2" galvanized bolts using special fasteners on the top bolt that look like http://nolan-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/deck-to-railing-connection3.jpg as the top bolt is the pivot point and needs bracing to prevent it from failing with the horizontal force requirement. The railings must be at least 36" high off the deck floor, with no more than 4" spacing allowed between balusters, and the way some people do it of just using balusters attached to the outside doesn't meet the requirements. To have a chance of surviving the horizontal load requirement they'd have to go on the inside of the supports, but then there's the situation mentioned already today's PT eats screws and nails like a kid eats candy, balusters only attached to the outside will have the screws looking like toothpicks in short order, think it's going to stop an adult falling/slamming into it having only balusters no posts and beams, only attached to the outside, and attached using screws which the PT has turned into toothpicks?

4.) Overhangs can't be more than 2' beyond the supports.

5.) Do a floating deck if possible particularly in wet places. It happens way too often someone finds out their rim joist is rotted because of how a deck was installed, and even if you do it right it's not going to be as good as if you just did a floating deck. My house I attached it to the ledger since my deck is on the 2nd floor but could I go back I'd have sucked it up and done floating.
 

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Tom's video is a little out-of-date, TOH should really pull it. The current 2006, 2012 Deck Guide: http://www.awc.org/pdf/codes-standards/publications/dca/AWC-DCA62012-DeckGuide-1405.pdf

Bottom guard-rail posts are in the ground footings-not sitting on wood plate/concrete CMU's attached with deck screws; no painted ends where any cut PT wood, need metal flashing, need 3/4" min. nosing on treads. Need hangers on stringers, his were only back-screwed (nails required unless special Simpson screws- not deck screws) with L-35 in wrong place- with the heel of the stringers hanging in air- forcing the toe to take stair loads and break with the grain between riser/tread notches. Using screws for all framing is certainly easier, check with local AHJ.

Astron 25, the reason for all the rot is the trim cap molding or 1x2 horizontal wood piece under the T1-11. Because it was caulked in, the T1 couldn't drain any water moisture it took in through the end grain (which should be painted)- that bottom of siding HAS to be left open with metal L-flashing to drain (no caulking at all here); middle pic under "Horiz. beltline joint" on pp.13;https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...NvvnLPGAq1Sfvw&bvm=bv.120552933,d.cGc&cad=rja

It appears you have the Code required 2" gap now, but to the framing. 6" is best for snow country. Once you install the decking, it will not meet minimum code to the non-PT siding- not 6"... "5. Wood siding, sheathing and wall framing on the exterior of a building having a clearance of less than 6 inches (152 mm) from the ground or less than 2 inches (51 mm) measured vertically from concrete steps, porch slabs, patio slabs, and similar horizontal surfaces exposed to the weather." From; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/icod/irc/2009/icod_irc_2009_3_sec017.htm?bu2=undefined

The 2x4 ledger board under the smaller field joists will collect water, use hangers instead.

Gary
 

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i ran into a similar situation on a deck i just did.. heres some shots of my remedy

i had to replace 8 ft of existing rim board on the house. once that was replaced i replaced the rotten sheathing then pulled the siding around it and covered it with blueskin.. from there attached my new ledger from which i installed a metal cap flashing which is protected from contact with the pt with a strip of blueskin on the pt... the ledger is air spiked every 16" with a pair of 1/2" x5 " lag bolt every 32"
 

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