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Old 06-17-2020, 06:04 PM   #1
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So first off, what this little added decorative roof/outcropping officially called?
Secondly, what's the best way to access it? It's just out of my reach while I'm on the garage roof. I was think about using something like a pivit ladder tool and a 6' ladder, but maybe some sort of scaffolding would work better, or a combination of the two.
Thanks for any suggestions or pointing me in the right google direction.
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It's not really decorative, IMO. Looks like someone simply put on an addition with a different pitch. Are you saying it's too steep to stand on?

If so, you should probably get a Guardian Ridge It anchor... put it under the ridge cap at the peak (as close as you can put it to the chimney) and then get yourself a fall protection harness and rope... and learn how to use them.

But you normally should not access a roof from a step ladder at all. It's a great way to tip the ladder over. You should be using an extension ladder. And so that it does not rest on the gutter and dent it, you can put a stabilizer/standoff on the extension ladder.
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something like this.
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You're right, it looks like an addition, but it's not, all original to the build.
It's not too steep, it's just not wide enough, maybe 18" tops, so it's not like I can crawl up there. I can reach the left corner from the garage roof, but about 1/2 to the right side it's just too far. I think something like Nealtw drew up is the way to go.



The other side of the house has something similar, but it's closer to 3' wide, that has enough room to get on top of.



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It's not really decorative, IMO. Looks like someone simply put on an addition with a different pitch. Are you saying it's too steep to stand on?

If so, you should probably get a Guardian Ridge It anchor... put it under the ridge cap at the peak (as close as you can put it to the chimney) and then get yourself a fall protection harness and rope... and learn how to use them.

But you normally should not access a roof from a step ladder at all. It's a great way to tip the ladder over. You should be using an extension ladder. And so that it does not rest on the gutter and dent it, you can put a stabilizer/standoff on the extension ladder.
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It's not really decorative, IMO. Looks like someone simply put on an addition with a different pitch. Are you saying it's too steep to stand on?

If so, you should probably get a Guardian Ridge It anchor... put it under the ridge cap at the peak (as close as you can put it to the chimney) and then get yourself a fall protection harness and rope... and learn how to use them.

But you normally should not access a roof from a step ladder at all. It's a great way to tip the ladder over. You should be using an extension ladder. And so that it does not rest on the gutter and dent it, you can put a stabilizer/standoff on the extension ladder.
We built a few like that where they have a max sq foot on the lot so they just make one side smaller and do this to the other side for a matched look.
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Cool, thanks for the info. I think I'll probably go with something like you sketched up.


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Cool, thanks for the info. I think I'll probably go with something like you sketched up.
Rules have really tightened up on that stuff. Today we would be expected to use metal scaffolding from the ground up and then put the board over to the roof.
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That is supposed to make the house look like it has a steep roof with a shed dormer. I once ripped one off a house and had a smooth wall.
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The chimney is 4 bricks wide plus some... you say that's 18"? Looks like 32'-36" to me.
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The chimney is 4 bricks wide plus some... you say that's 18"? Looks like 32'-36" to me.

I think you're looking at a different section. I'm talking about the small overhang that still has siding above it.
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Yeah I was looking at the part that is being worked on!

If they still allow wall jacks you could use them on the lower wall if it wasnt styrofoam. But a homeowner can do whatever he wants. Put plywood on the wall and use wall Jacks with ledgerlocks. Or build a temporary scaffold like we would do in the good ol days.

Now that I know what roofline you're talking about, it's still not decorative... it's the way shed dormers are built.
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Yeah I was looking at the part that is being worked on!

If they still allow wall jacks you could use them on the lower wall if it wasnt styrofoam. But a homeowner can do whatever he wants. Put plywood on the wall and use wall Jacks with ledgerlocks. Or build a temporary scaffold like we would do in the good ol days.

Now that I know what roofline you're talking about, it's still not decorative... it's the way shed dormers are built.
The 18" wide roof that is in the way is just nailed to the side of the wall, decoration.
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The 18" wide roof that is in the way is just nailed to the side of the wall, decoration.
Actually it's more than decoration. Up in the corner it provides a nice safe place for wasps to build nests!
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I guess if you think soffits are purely decorative...

I'd say they are functional.

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I guess if you think soffits are purely decorative...

I'd say they are functional.

I am talking about the little one just below the vinyl siding
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