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Old 01-02-2020, 06:08 PM   #1
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My stucco installer noted that the OSB of the second-story framing overhang the first story block by about 1/2". He said that stucco is applied 1/4" thicker on the second story anyway, so he said it would look very bad unless the second story was made flush with the block.

Since he said this, I noticed other houses that have second story stucco overhanging the first. I can't really get up close to someone else's house but from the street, it looks to be more than just 1/4".

Is this something I should worry about.

I attached some Google Earth pictures of a house that I think overhangs more than 1/4" and doesn't look bad.
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Old 01-02-2020, 06:35 PM   #2
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The example you picked is a design feature of that house. For your house, he might be right that you need to make yours into a feature as well - with a frieze board, a cornice, reveal, or some detail to look like the offset was planned. Maybe post a picture if you want ideas.
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The example you picked is a design feature of that house. For your house, he might be right that you need to make yours into a feature as well - with a frieze board, a cornice, reveal, or some detail to look like the offset was planned. Maybe post a picture if you want ideas.
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First thing you need to think about is how is the joint between the top of the CMU & the bottom of the sill plate going to be made water tight? Than you will need some type of expansion joint or control joint / flashing between the CMU & wood framing. If a band,Friese Board or Cornice is installed the bottom should float to allow for movement between the CMU & Wood. Have your Stucco contractor or someone draw a detail of how things will be applied to include the water proofing as water cannot be allowed to weep onto the CMU.
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First thing you need to think about is how is the joint between the top of the CMU & the bottom of the sill plate going to be made water tight? Than you will need some type of expansion joint or control joint / flashing between the CMU & wood framing. If a band,Friese Board or Cornice is installed the bottom should float to allow for movement between the CMU & Wood. Have your Stucco contractor or someone draw a detail of how things will be applied to include the water proofing as water cannot be allowed to weep onto the CMU.
Ok. It's a good thing my stucco installer already agrees with you. My framers were trying to tell me it was normal and that if anything it was the fault of the truss company for not making them 1" shorter. What do you think about that?
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Ok. It's a good thing my stucco installer already agrees with you. My framers were trying to tell me it was normal and that if anything it was the fault of the truss company for not making them 1" shorter. What do you think about that?
I would think that if everybody were working off the same set of Plans, drawings or Blue Prints everything should match the prints, or is this a design as you go?
Question is there any king of inspection on this job?
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Ok. It's a good thing my stucco installer already agrees with you. My framers were trying to tell me it was normal and that if anything it was the fault of the truss company for not making them 1" shorter. What do you think about that?
I would think that if everybody were working off the same set of Plans, drawings or Blue Prints everything should match the prints, or is this a design as you go?
Question is there any king of inspection on this job?
This overhang was not planned. It could also be due to OSB swelling from water.

Yes there are inspections.

How long should it take to frame a house this size?
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I think Clarence meant who is making sure the prints are being followed and working out conflicts, separate from AHJ. I suppose you have a lot of rain delaying it, and are you considering the masonry as part of taking so long to "frame" the house? Get that roof sheathed and underlayment on!

P.S. I see no problem with overhanging the CMU, if it was detailed originally.
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I think Clarence meant who is making sure the prints are being followed and working out conflicts, separate from AHJ. I suppose you have a lot of rain delaying it, and are you considering the masonry as part of taking so long to "frame" the house? Get that roof sheathed and underlayment on!
I was not including masonry.

That picture is a little old, but roof is still not on completely.
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This overhang was not planned. It could also be due to OSB swelling from water.

Yes there are inspections.

How long should it take to frame a house this size?
As for a time table for the framing time I have NO idea I only do Plaster & Stucco & items related to these trades.
I would think framing time would be related to experience of the foreman & his crew size & their experience. You can add in weather, material on site & delivery time of materials as needed. Can the workers access the work area say do they have scaffold as needed or do they have to move it as needed? Many other things can be a factor in construction.
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