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Old 01-19-2019, 10:46 AM   #1
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Planning to have new siding installed and windows replaced. Most everyone in my neighborhood put vinyl siding over the old "asbestos" shingles. I'd like to add some R value to the walls with the siding and wrap. I've read about the limit increase with "insulated" vinyl siding. And I've read the insulated vinyl siding isn't really insulated. Is there a worthwhile siding product that will increase R value?

I don't want to get into a huge project that involves adding foam board because the front of my house is 1/2 brick and front windows are newish. Those windows won't be replaced.

Also, are costs associated with installing insulated siding tax deductable like installing new windows.
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It doesn't increase R-Value and it does create a decent thermal break. As much as the marketing materials would like you to believe...probably not.



Best one out there, in my experience, is the Prodigy from Alside.



What kind of asbestos siding to you have? Is it transite?



You probably maxed out your deduction on other stuff at this point, but it can't hurt to check with the accountant.
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It doesn't increase R-Value and it does create a decent thermal break. As much as the marketing materials would like you to believe...probably not.



Best one out there, in my experience, is the Prodigy from Alside.



What kind of asbestos siding to you have? Is it transite?



You probably maxed out your deduction on other stuff at this point, but it can't hurt to check with the accountant.
Thanks for the recommendation on Alside. Watched a few videos. Looks promising.
Haven't tested the shingles, just assume they're asbestos based on what everyone says. Regs allow me to remove and dispose in landfill myself, but contractor has to abide by abatement rules. Contractor says they install vinyl siding on top of the shingles.
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Thanks for the recommendation on Alside. Watched a few videos. Looks promising.
Haven't tested the shingles, just assume they're asbestos based on what everyone says. Regs allow me to remove and dispose in landfill myself, but contractor has to abide by abatement rules. Contractor says they install vinyl siding on top of the shingles.
There are insurance companies using it for an excuse to not cover the house.
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There are insurance companies using it for an excuse to not cover the house.
Not following you, Neal. There's not an insurance company involved here. Just a home upgrade, not a claim.
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I don't have specifics but dealing with the removal today will probably be far less expensive than a few years down the road. Prospective buyers will have objections to absorbing the risk of owning your siding.

I have stripped old siding off of a few homes (not related to asbestos) and it is perhaps the easiest part of the job. You might work with the siding contractor and you remove and dispose of the old while they take over and install the new. With the old gone you will have some extra depth and a nice flat surface to install a well sealed layer of rigid. 1/2" would match the siding you removed and although still not a lot being taped and sealed it would be a plus.

With the old siding off your window replacements could be new construction with some trim work inside. But a much better installation, new flashing and an opportunity to deal with the gap around the window.

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Not following you, Neal. There's not an insurance company involved here. Just a home upgrade, not a claim.
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Vinyl siding, by design, is installed loosely and allows lots of air to flow through the cracks and joints. Best is to insulate and then install normal vinyl.
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While they aren't supposed to be nailed tight so as to accommodate expansion, the foam backed products sit as flush as the wall is (i.e. condition of exterior wall sensitive here).


If the walls are pretty true, there isn't much air moving behind the siding and they R-Value does translate as an increment relative to its intimate contact with the structure.
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