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Old 12-10-2011, 10:18 AM   #1
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which waterproofing system for shower?


Plumbing for my new bathroom is almost done. Insulating should go quickly. So, I'm on to thinking about the tile. The shower is 3x4', no tub; tile will probably go to the ceiling. I'll be making a mud bed. What waterproofing system do you guys recommend for a novice? I'd planned on Kerdi, after reading John Bridge's forum. Now I'm not so sure. Our local tile supplier sells Hydroment and Gold Plus. I've heard of RedGard, too.

I've tiled a couple rooms, but never a bathroom. Which system is the best bet for a novice?

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Are you hand building the shower pan?

Are you using A cement backer on the wall?

Waterproofing what exactly?

Shower pan--walls?
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Yup. Handbuilding the pan. 1/2" cement board on the walls.What do you like between the floor/walls/curb and the tile?
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I'd planned on Kerdi, after reading John Bridge's forum. Now I'm not so sure.
Explain that comment will ya?
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Too much reading, I guess. The folks over at JB really like Kerdi. I can get it at Home Depot. But some at Terry Love's forum don't. Redgard has been mentioned. The local tile store recommends Gold Plus, a roll on membrane. So, now I'm confused.

All that's done now is the framing (dried in) and plumbing rough-in. No drain hole in the shower floor yet. In fact, the shower is just a chalk line on the floor.
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Okay let's try to clear this up. The KERDI recommendation is the only way to go in your case simply because you don't know what you are doing and the KERDI system is very user/DIY friendly.

The folks at Terry Love's are all sweethearts I'm sure but they are plumbers first and tileguys last. And I mean last. So forget about the Love website when it comes to tile stuff.

Now if you have already been to JB's website then you already have all the information you need to do your proper installation and you won't get anything very different here.

If you continue to visit every website you can find on the subject you will stay confused and you won't get anything accomplished.

By-the-way...The liquid membranes are no substitute for the KERDI or the NOBLE systems and wouldn't be recommended for your shower pan liner if that's what you are thinking.

Pick a website and stay with it.
Pick a shower system and stay with it.
Get a plan and stay with it.
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Bud,
I've read that Kerdi does not allow the use of "modified thinset". Is that a problem?
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I've read that Kerdi does not allow the use of "modified thinset". Is that a problem?
The type of thinset used for KERDI depends on what the KERDI is being applied to. There's a real long story about all that nonsense that goes back years but I'm not spending any time on that right now.

Why are you asking? What's up?
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Nothin's up. I'm just trying to be well prepared, before I start.
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If I use a waterproof membrane, such as Kerdi, between the tile and cement board, should my insulation batts be faced, or have the facing removed?

And, Durock, Wonderboard or Hardibacker??
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