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Old 07-13-2016, 06:42 PM   #16
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Re: Stone chair rails


Hit send too early... And the ripping the 1x6 to give you the moulding.

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Old 07-13-2016, 07:04 PM   #17
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I like the idea actually......
I need 2 x 5'
I do have a table saw, so i can rip a 1x 6 in two 1 x 2 1/2 for exampe
I also have a router, but it's will be too big. I would need a router table, or a compact router. Why not though
What "shapong" does mean?
And what would be the best way to install that trim, that will sit partially on wood and drywall?
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:22 PM   #18
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Typo should have been shapeing. I would use the special Azek screws with plugs, or you could simply nail it with an air gun and 2 inch finish nails and attach it to the wood only. If your moulding is 2 inches wide only 1/2 inch will be on the drywall, and i would caulk that joint with a caulk that matches your grout. You can find that caulk where you buy the grout.

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Old 07-13-2016, 07:30 PM   #19
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Will take a look tomorrow at HD or Lowes for their PVC moulding or Azek boards
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I don't think I would use epoxy or glue on the stone pieces. I would use the versions, but tape the joint between the wood and drywall with the mesh tape meant for taping cement board. You'll find it in the tile section, don't use the mesh tape meant for drywall.
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So you would bridge the junction wood/drywall with alkali resistant mesh, embedded in thinset (versabond)?
How it will adhere to the wood portion? Should I staple the mesh on the wood?
Should I do the mesh+thinset and wait it to dry, or mesh+thinset and start tiling right away when still wet?
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Frenchy,
If I were to use the mesh and thinset, I would just apply the tape so it covers the wood and the gap, it's self adhesive. Then go ahead and thinset over it and tile. You may need to use some painters tape to help hold the stone pieces in place til they set up. I do like Jeff's idea of using a molding too. Might be better in the long run.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:31 PM   #22
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To install the chair rail on the drywall and using Versabond, can I put the thinset on the back of the tile, and comb it with the trowel (instead of on the drywall)?
Should I use a V-notch trowel, or ¼ x ¼ trowel is recommended?
I was thinking putting a straight edge on the wall at the right height, and install the chair rail first. Then install the mosaic afterward…..
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I would put the thinset on the wall, first with the smooth edge of the 1/4" X 1/4" trowel to make sure you get a good bond to the drywall. Then comb it out and butter the back of each piece with a thin coat, to ensure a good bond. You can install the chair rail first, but you better triple check your layout for the mosaics to make sure you don't end up with a skinny row or taper.
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Yeah, I thought about that (skinny line or taper)
I might install everything at the same time
Is 1/4 x 1/4 not too big for the mosaic? Want to avoid the thinset to ooze too much....
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Another question: should I prime the drywall before tiling (it's new drywall)?
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Is 1/4 x 1/4 not too big for the mosaic?
What's their thickness and size?

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should I prime the drywall before tiling (it's new drywall)?
No, do not prime.

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Hello neighbor,

Mosaic are 2 x 2 tiles on a 12 x 12 mesh
They are relatively thin..... ~1/4" I would say
But I will cut each sheet in half, to have a 3 tiles high backsplash...
I'm also installing on top of it a chair rail:
http://www.lowes.com/pd/Anatolia-Til...-in/1000009168

I was thinking to use a V-notch trowel, to avoid thinset oozing into the mosaic joints
But I don't know it such trowel will be OK for the chair rail though...
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It's better to use a square notch with thinset, ⅛ or 3/16" but a 3/16x1/4" V will be fine too. What do you have ? Why not also use a pointing trowel or even a small putty knife to butter the rail after skimming the wall?

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I will have to buy one....not sure i can find a 1/8 or 3/16 square notch at home depot or lowes though........most likely a 1/4 x 1/4
But i should be able to find a v notch 3/16 x 1/4
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It's better to use a square notch with thinset, ⅛ or 3/16" but a 3/16x1/4" V will be fine too. What do you have ? Why not also use a pointing trowel or even a small putty knife to butter the rail after skimming the wall?

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OK, I've just found at Home Depot a 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 square notch trowel (it says "Wood adhesive trowel") ...
Will this be OK for both mosaic and chair rail with Versabond?

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