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Old 10-22-2017, 01:30 PM   #16
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Since Pappy was willing to make his own deck mud and pre-slope, I figured just the bare min. materials/method.

Anyone can get a Kerdi Drain for $100 or less. Some distributors carry the plain-Jane packaged (in a clear plastic zip bag, no pretty box) for under $70 if you can get them to sell to you.

Find a real tile store who carries Kerdi membrane in stock, they will sell you what you need. No need to buy a whole roll. Buy some Kerdi Band as needed.

If you wanna save $$$, just do the floor-curb-and up the wall 3" or more above the curb line. If you use CBU you can skip the surface waterproofing like in the old days, but, I highly recommend not trying to save $$$ cuz you may be sorry in 5-10 years.

Now that I confused some, let me just say there's several ways and combinations to so this. Some use a hybrid method using a membrane and also a liquid applied membrane to save. $$$

I always did the "True" Kerdi method and let those who wanted cheap go find someone else. In the beginning there weren't many of us who were actually waterproofing showers or even using pre-slopes.

A certain TV modernization guy (from Canada) always said that a Kerdi shower should add about $1200 to the cost of building it. I usually charged an average of $600 more. I figured Kerdi added about $250-300 in materials and about one extra day to do.

* BIG Johnson & Pappy, right....regular drywall is preferred, it's even better than greenboard. No need to fill and/or tape joints, Kerdi is the "tape".

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Since Pappy was willing to make his own deck mud and pre-slope, I figured just the bare min. materials/method.

Anyone can get a Kerdi Drain for $100 or less. Some distributors carry the plain-Jane packaged (in a clear plastic zip bag, no pretty box) for under $70 if you can get them to sell to you.

Find a real tile store who carries Kerdi membrane in stock, they will sell you what you need. No need to buy a whole roll. Buy some Kerdi Band as needed.

If you wanna save $$$, just do the floor-curb-and up the wall 3" or more above the curb line. If you use CBU you can skip the surface waterproofing like in the old days, but, I highly recommend not trying to save $$$ cuz you may be sorry in 5-10 years.

Now that I confused some, let me just say there's several ways and combinations to so this. Some use a hybrid method using a membrane and also a liquid applied membrane to save. $$$

I always did the "True" Kerdi method and let those who wanted cheap go find someone else. In the beginning there weren't many of us who were actually waterproofing showers or even using pre-slopes.

A certain TV modernization guy (from Canada) always said that a Kerdi shower should add about $1200 to the cost of building it. I usually charged an average of $600 more. I figured Kerdi added about $250-300 in materials and about one extra day to do.

* BIG Johnson & Pappy, right....regular drywall is preferred, it's even better than greenboard. No need to fill and/or tape joints, Kerdi is the "tape".

Jaz

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If you buy the $100 kerdi drain on Amazon you get all the corners, pipe seal and valve seal. You really can't beat that deal. I don't think. Corners aren't cheap to buy separate.



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Thanks.

If you buy the $100 kerdi drain on Amazon you get all the corners, pipe seal and valve seal. You really can't beat that deal. I don't think. Corners aren't cheap to buy separate.



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I've purchased the kerdi drain from my tile distributor
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I've purchased the kerdi drain from my tile distributor
Home Depot has the same drain kit as Amazon for only a dollar more.
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Is 1/4" slope per foot the minimum for the shower base?
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Remember here that if you go with the old school method that you still have to waterproof the cbu walls. That could be redguard for another $100 or so, plus a lot of time for multiple coats. Or the cheapest way is to do 2 layers of 6 mil plastic or roof felt behind the cbu, about $20. And of course that roll of grey mesh tape for $5.

$70 for shower bed? Where are you buying? Sand and topping mix is only like $4 or 5 dollars a bag. Just add some more sand to get it to 4:1. You can do a 3x5 shower bed for less than $70 with liner
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Is 1/4" slope per foot the minimum for the shower base?
This is about what I did in mine and it drains fine.

Quikcrete sand and topping mix with added sand for 4:1 ratio for preslope
Oatey liner for $30
More deck mud on top of that.
Install durock cement board panels on wall over oatey liner and on top of deck mud
Grout cement board gaps and corners around base
1 gallon of aqua defense is $50 and did 2-3 nice coats 4/5 of the way up the wall of my shower

Built entire shower base + walls for less than $150. Doesn't leak even with 2 recessed soap boxes that I made from cement board + grouting + aqua defense
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$70 for shower bed? Where are you buying? Sand and topping mix is only like $4 or 5 dollars a bag. Just add some more sand to get it to 4:1. You can do a 3x5 shower bed for less than $70 with liner
There's nothing in that quote about a shower pan or $70.
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