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Old 11-26-2019, 02:05 PM   #31
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Here's what I thought... drill at same height as existing holes, then insert dowels , pre-drill the dowels before screwing to prevent splitting. Bob's your uncle!
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:08 PM   #32
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My sketch is probably not accurate though
The wall between quarter bath and shower is probably a standard size wall, meaning 3-1/2" studs
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Here's what I thought...
yep, it's exactly how I understood it.....seems a very good idea, with minimum repair afterward
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Now, the question is where to find HARDWOOD dowel rods?
Home Depot carries 1-1/4" dowel rod, but people are saying it's just pine.....might not be strong enough !!
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Old 11-26-2019, 06:37 PM   #35
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If you take your time and widen the holes, that missed studs, towards the other holes you can install these anchors that are rated @ 330 lbs in block. This will require no drywall patching. With the walls being lathed in, if done properly the lathe was fastened @ stud locations and to the stud. This will make the entire tile system on that wall a whole. These anchors are MORE than enough and you can probably find a 1/4-20 bolt with the proper head on it to match your hinge.

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Old 11-26-2019, 06:42 PM   #36
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I agree with Derrick - I'd use a good anchor. Moen makes a strong anchor called SecureMount, intended for their grab bars. The hole might be too big though. It's hidden behind the big circle of a grab bar cover, but check to see if the shower door frame would cover it.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:40 AM   #37
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I'm a little bit concerned about the toggle anchors
I cannot just drill a larger hole over the existing one, otherwise I fear the hinge will not cover them entirely
So it's more going to be "grinding" the 2 holes toward the center of the hinge
How should I do that? I don't want to end up completely messing the tiles !!!
Plus, and correct me if I'm wrong, there is like a flange on this type of anchor that rest on the finished surface....so the hinge will not sit flat, right?
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Now, the question is where to find HARDWOOD dowel rods?
Home Depot carries 1-1/4" dowel rod, but people are saying it's just pine.....might not be strong enough !!
The studs you are screwing into are made of ............ pine
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:31 AM   #39
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However, they have a lot more meat than dowels.

I would not pre-drill the dowels—no way to make sure you're gonna have the hole trued up or lined up after pounding in. Drilling the hole afterward should be NBD.

However, the more I think about it, the more I like just getting 7" screws and screwing into the stud adjacent to the door frame.

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The studs you are screwing into are made of ............ pine
That's right......but thicker so more grab?
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However, they have a lot more meat than dowels.

I would not pre-drill the dowels—no way to make sure you're gonna have the hole trued up or lined up after pounding in. Drilling the hole afterward should be NBD.

However, the more I think about it, the more I like just getting 7" screws and screwing into the stud adjacent to the door frame.
Well, yes....that would be the easiest solution
I purchased #10 and #12 wood screws yesterday to compare with the original one
#10 shank is smaller but the #12 head doesn't fit well in the hinge's chamfer
So it seems I would need to find #10 wood screws in 6.5" minimum....
Still fighting with the contractor actually....He doesn't want to come take a look, and says all screws were tighten, into studs or anchors. Being wood screws, it cannot be toggle style anchors then (that could have fallen into the wall)
So it must have been plastic anchors, and I should see them.......but I do not see anything !!!!
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Well, yes....that would be the easiest solution
I purchased #10 and #12 wood screws yesterday to compare with the original one
#10 shank is smaller but the #12 head doesn't fit well in the hinge's chamfer
So it seems I would need to find #10 wood screws in 6.5" minimum....
Still fighting with the contractor actually....He doesn't want to come take a look, and says all screws were tighten, into studs or anchors. Being wood screws, it cannot be toggle style anchors then (that could have fallen into the wall)
So it must have been plastic anchors, and I should see them.......but I do not see anything !!!!

Good riddance to a contractor that believes green drywall is a good thing behind the tiles.


.....And one that also lies to you. What you wrote about the anchors is dead on. There were none.
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Good riddance to a contractor that believes green drywall is a good thing behind the tiles.


.....And one that also lies to you. What you wrote about the anchors is dead on. There were none.
Well, it's green drywall with metal lath+scratch coat (and it was not the same contractor - I do trust the one who remodeled the shower. He also did our kitchen)
It's just about the clown who install the shower door......

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For the dowel solution, I will have to make some tests with a spade bit, to see how tight or loose a 1" or 1-1/4" dowel fits into a hole made with a 1" or 1-1/4" spade bit
Cannot be too loose, and cannot be too tight !!!
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For the dowel solution, I will have to make some tests with a spade bit, to see how tight or loose a 1" or 1-1/4" dowel fits into a hole made with a 1" or 1-1/4" spade bit
Cannot be too loose, and cannot be too tight !!!
I like the dowel idea but maybe a nylon dowel that will just take the screws that come with the hinge, An auger bit would be better than a spade bit.
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