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Old 01-14-2019, 08:42 PM   #31
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Yeah after looking around at these types of tubs, all the feedback about them seemed to indicate exactly that. Hopefully I can try to make whatever I end up with fit a more "standard size".

Its too bad the manufacturers cant just make a tub that simply fits in an X by X by X box, and ship it in said box...

Worst case I design the "Tub box" so it has a few inches on all dimensions. So if a replacement is necessary, slight resizing would be simple and not affect surrounding areas.
The 59" is made to fit a re do that fits inside drywall but notching 2x4 none bearing wall is just a PITA but no harm done.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:48 PM   #32
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Got it. I'll keep the design as is, and be prepared to make small changes if the tub arrives off in dimensions.

I guess the answer to this next question varies by manufacturer... Does my design account for "mounting flanges" in the tub? For example in the attachment, I would be able to mount to studs in the red circled areas, and not in the green circled areas (which would require a 'small' design overhaul).
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Got it. I'll keep the design as is, and be prepared to make small changes if the tub arrives off in dimensions.

I guess the answer to this next question varies by manufacturer... Does my design account for "mounting flanges" in the tub? For example in the attachment, I would be able to mount to studs in the red circled areas, and not in the green circled areas (which would require a 'small' design overhaul).
I would want the tub on site before building either wall.
A one piece has a flange so plan the green wall to be wider than the tub.
A one piece tub we usually see one row of tile white all around it instead of trying to get a nice fit between drywall and tub. 4 or 6 inches
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A one piece tub we usually see one row of tile white all around it instead of trying to get a nice fit between drywall and tub. 4 or 6 inches
This means facing the tub as if you were to walk into it, left and right side would have a tile border? Move the tub to red box location, and the green sections would be tile?
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:12 PM   #35
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This means facing the tub as if you were to walk into it, left and right side would have a tile border? Move the tub to red box location, and the green sections would be tile?
You are thinking of tubs made in the 70s or a long time ago.
the flange faces the orange and green walls to fit in a 5 foot wide room.
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You are thinking of tubs made in the 70s or a long time ago.
the flange faces the orange and green walls to fit in a 5 foot wide room.
I am not sure I get what you mean then. Should I keep the 60"x32" box (or 30" depending on model...)? Where do the tiles that you are talking about typically go, these green areas?
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Or do they go "inside"?
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Gotcha. I could see that working on the door side's wall. On the toilet's side I'm not too sure that would work. To avoid lack of symmetry issues, I'd probably not go with tiles. Maybe I could get creative later, but its nothing that changes the layout now.

The original inspiration was one I had seen done a long time ago, no tiles, just butted up against drywall. Never had any problems for MANY years with A LOT of use. It was a 3 piece and the seams did get a little discolored, hence wanting a 1 piece.

Depending on tile choice, it could look like trying to dress up something that isn't fancy and should be left simple, clean, and basic.
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Gotcha. I could see that working on the door side's wall. On the toilet's side I'm not too sure that would work. To avoid lack of symmetry issues, I'd probably not go with tiles. Maybe I could get creative later, but its nothing that changes the layout now.

The original inspiration was one I had seen done a long time ago, no tiles, just butted up against drywall. Never had any problems for MANY years with A LOT of use. It was a 3 piece and the seams did get a little discolored, hence wanting a 1 piece.

Depending on tile choice, it could look like trying to dress up something that isn't fancy and should be left simple, clean, and basic.
That little wall you are building we always build at least 4" wider that the tub, then tiie or not is an option but that doesn't usually effect the placement of the toilet as it is back beside the tank.
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That little wall you are building we always build at least 4" wider that the tub, then tiie or not is an option but that doesn't usually effect the placement of the toilet as it is back beside the tank.
I see. I'll have to pay careful attention to the installation instructions/methods and likely have the tub in the basement to check before I even plan on ripping up concrete for the shower/toilet drains.

I do have a 30" wide sink as a backup plan, if I need to make changes to the shower dimension.

I think the layout is good to go, next up is plan the plumbing/electrical. Then order stuff and finalize locations/dimensions, and start building Unless there's anything else I missed or need to consider?
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Sounds like you're headed in the right direction now. I thought the laundry was existing, if so find where its line runs and a floor drain (if have by the furnace), and post a new drawing in the plumbing section. Your waste and vent can and should be made much simpler than your first attempt which the plumbers might not see it here.

IMO the tile: usually the purpose of a prefab surround is to forego the cost of tile. Tile is obviously better than the scratches the acrylic or fiberglass surround will get, so to go to that much trouble for the backer and install you might as well do a full tile surround. Or just stick with a 1 piece tub/shower or 2-4 piece unit with no tile.
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Sounds like you're headed in the right direction now. I thought the laundry was existing, if so find where its line runs and a floor drain (if have by the furnace), and post a new drawing in the plumbing section. Your waste and vent can and should be made much simpler than your first attempt which the plumbers might not see it here.

IMO the tile: usually the purpose of a prefab surround is to forego the cost of tile. Tile is obviously better than the scratches the acrylic or fiberglass surround will get, so to go to that much trouble for the backer and install you might as well do a full tile surround. Or just stick with a 1 piece tub/shower or 2-4 piece unit with no tile.
The flange behind the drywall kicks it out right at the tub so the builders all just have the drywall stopped at the flange and do a row of the cheapest white tile they can find, and it looks good.
Instead of have these kind of problems.

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Old 01-15-2019, 11:21 AM   #44
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You can see the problem here when the wall is the same size as the tub.
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I agree with the kickout, I usually do one stud on 1piece or the width of a bullnose for a tub. But I prefer cementious board for tile, I don't bother behind acrylic/fg because if you want eye candy then don't use acrylic/fg in the first place.
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