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Old 10-28-2013, 11:32 AM   #46
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One more thing...could you show more pics of your kitchen, the top cabs and the other side? My granite...the backsplash is mirror that's why you see two of everything. Granite like this with a lot of movement in my opinion would be fighting your beautiful floor, where as a solid reflective black would further enhance your floor.
Would it less expensive to rip out the existing countertops and install new ones? I awesome companies just add granite over the existing counters. I would think that cost much more.
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Granite is NEVER installed over laminate counter tops. It's always installed directly over the cabinets below if it's 3cm or onto a plywood subtop if it's 2 cm.

HGTV used to show a product called Granite Transformations which was a thin veneer of engineered stone (NOT granite) that they would glue on top of laminate. Unfortunately like a lot of thin stone install, the longevity is only as good and stable as the base it's applied onto. A lot of them cracked. I'm not sure if the company is still in business or not, but the whole process there is something to steer clear of.
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Thanks for the 'vocabulary time' lesson on granite.
...and here I thought since I have granite, I thought I knew
what it was, as well as the difference between expensive and inexpensive.

Here's my opinion...
Granite tile with that gorgeous floor???
It would not be the optimum
choice for me, it fact it would be a bad choice for the homeowner, as it would
lessen the impact and beauty of the floor. I really want to say cheapen,
but that's not a word that I like to use. I would rather see a dark solid laminate,
if the granite is too expensive.
But, then again, that's just one woman's opinion...and I am never at a loss
for opinions.

These forums are full of advise and opinions, we all have them,
and that's what's great about
the internet; we can dole out advise world wide instead of just our
close inner circle. And the best part is -- that we are all free to take the advise
we like and ignore the rest.

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Old 10-28-2013, 12:20 PM   #49
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Would it less expensive to rip out the existing countertops and install new ones? I awesome companies just add granite over the existing counters. I would think that cost much more.
We posted at the same time...no, never is granite installed over existing
counters. I've seen people install ceramic tile over existing counters,
but, I've never seen ceramic tiles on counters that look good.

If cost is a factor, then choose a laminate that you can be happy with.
I have no idea the cost of the example I posted, if it is as expensive
as the higher end granite? I just loved the clean and reflective quality
it had, and think it would marry with your floor beautifully.
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The laminate counter shown below (Formica 180FX in Calcatta Marble with an ogee edge) would retail for right at $215 for that 8' section, fabricated to your measurement and with the sink hole cut out. That same counter, fabricated and installed, would retail at around $430. Minimum quantities apply to all counter purchases, so sometimes small kitchens end up paying more per foot than a larger kitchen will do.



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Here are a few more pics of our kitchen and entrance area.
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Where's gregzoll...the guy who stated granite countertops are not 100% granite. lol
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dinasaur, The floor looks great in the entryway as well.
Are you open to refinishing your existing cabs a darker color?
...or painting them either black or white?
I think first you have to decide that before picking a countertop.

The example live oak posted looks like it is flat sawn oak painted black;
and it looks nice.
I have one flat sawn oak cabinet in our house painted white
as that looks good. The reason I think it looks good is cause
the natural grain and texture of the wood penetrates through.

The style of your cabinets is fine, it's the color of the cabs that
is 'off' with the floor.

Have you ever considered sanding them down and refinishing them?
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dinasaur, The floor looks great in the entryway as well. Are you open to refinishing your existing cabs a darker color? ...or painting them either black or white? I think first you have to decide that before picking a countertop. The example live oak posted looks like it is flat sawn oak painted black; and it looks nice. I have one flat sawn oak cabinet in our house painted white as that looks good. The reason I think it looks good is cause the natural grain and texture of the wood penetrates through. The style of your cabinets is fine, it's the color of the cabs that is 'off' with the floor. Have you ever considered sanding them down and refinishing them?
I'm not opposed to it, but they overall they match the wood around our kitchen and our wooden floors.
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The wood set up in our home now looks great I think. This is why changing the cabinet color worries me.
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Having cabinetry match the floors isn't the best. There's nothing stopping your eye and everything bleeds into the other.

If you want to upgrade your counters for your own pleasure and enjoyment, upgrade your cabinets first. THere's a much better layout to be had first of all. I don't see any drawer stacks at all, etc.

Second of all, those are builder quality cabinets, and I really wouldn't ever put something so permanent as stone on top of them. If you want to upgrade the cabinets after you've done that, the stone may not survive the removal intact. Plus, it locks you in to a less than optimal layout.

The project that I would recommend though would be a simple replacement of the existing laminate with a different laminate. It would better suit the rest of the home. The floors are the piece of the puzzle that doesn't quite fit the rest of the home. The rest of the home is a nice entry-mid level home, and then you've got those floors! One of those things is not like the others, if you've ever played that game.
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Having cabinetry match the floors isn't the best. There's nothing stopping your eye and everything bleeds into the other. If you want to upgrade your counters for your own pleasure and enjoyment, upgrade your cabinets first. THere's a much better layout to be had first of all. I don't see any drawer stacks at all, etc. Second of all, those are builder quality cabinets, and I really wouldn't ever put something so permanent as stone on top of them. If you want to upgrade the cabinets after you've done that, the stone may not survive the removal intact. Plus, it locks you in to a less than optimal layout. The project that I would recommend though would be a simple replacement of the existing laminate with a different laminate. It would better suit the rest of the home. The floors are the piece of the puzzle that doesn't quite fit the rest of the home. The rest of the home is a nice entry-mid level home, and then you've got those floors! One of those things is not like the others, if you've ever played that game.
Thanks. What I don't get is what you mean by stone over the cabinets?

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Thanks. What I don't get is what you mean by stone over the cabinets?
It means installing a granite or quartz counter top.

When you install granite/quartz, the old counter gets removed and the new installed in its place.
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It means installing a granite or quartz counter top. When you install granite/quartz, the old counter gets removed and the new installed in its place.
She meant countertops, not cabinets it sounds like.
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Quartz countertops and change the hardward to something silver and sleek. Or solid surface. But i like quartz always over granite.
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