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Old 01-04-2019, 11:02 PM   #16
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NIX on that studless mount, it's only a rubber suction cup thing, and with any weight, it releases easy.

And with age the rubber will decay, and be useless.

At least all the studless ones that I have looked at, I would not trust.

Tell your mom that younger people use a shower chair, I for one need one to scrub my carcass, I lost a leg below the knee 18 months ago, and my everything changed.

So it's not a matter of feeling old, it's a matter of hygiene.

Best scenario, is to have a built for handicapped shower built, with a designated seat, and wand , and grab handles, walk in.

But as an alternative, you are doing the best that you can.


This is a studless mount , not the rubber suction cup you mentioned.


https://www.supplyworks.com/Sku/8039...saAnVwEALw_wcB
Granted, it is different, and if one believes the advertising , it is great.

But I have seen too many very similar things inserted into walls, that fell out, because of poor workmanship installing.

I am hesitant to advise their use.

As I said the best scenario is to have a real handicap accessible shower built.

There are several entities that will assist the elderly, handicapped, or needy with the cost, and maybe will even be the general contractor.

Worth looking into.


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There is a fairly new product called a stud-less grab bar mount sold at Home Cheapo.
That product would probably be quite OK to use on a tilled wall, as the "load' is spread over an area rather than at one point.

Other products which spread the load are available from https://www.harborcitysupply.com/gra...ting-hardware/

(I have used a similar product available in this country but it first required the cutting of a 32 mm hole in each tile, which necessitated the purchase of a diamond edged hole cutter - increasing the cost of a one-off installation.

This Grab Bar installation has been in use for about ten years, without any problems.)
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I have never mounted a shower grab bar, but when I search it, I see they are often shown being mounted vertically, so that they can be mounted on one stud.
Grab bars are mounted vertically, at an angle, or horizontally, depending on their use. If you go vertical, and it happens that the stud is close, by all means use it.

However, positioning one vertically just so you can use a stud, can also put it out of position or otherwise make it next to useless.

There are also a lot of specialty shaped bars which may not be at your local Home improvement store.

If the user needs multiple grab bars in the bathroom, I replace the towel bars with safety bars. Iíve seen elderly/handicapped grab the towel bars and rip them out of the wall as they start to fall.
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I have never mounted a shower grab bar, but when I search it, I see they are often shown being mounted vertically, so that they can be mounted on one stud.
The entire flange won't fit on the stud either, maybe 2 of the screws might grab it.
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Grab bars are mounted vertically, at an angle, or horizontally, depending on their use. If you go vertical, and it happens that the stud is close, by all means use it.

However, positioning one vertically just so you can use a stud, can also put it out of position or otherwise make it next to useless.

There are also a lot of specialty shaped bars which may not be at your local Home improvement store.

If the user needs multiple grab bars in the bathroom, I replace the towel bars with safety bars. I’ve seen elderly/handicapped grab the towel bars and rip them out of the wall as they start to fall.
I have seen towel bars ripped out by a 5 year old Niece, swinging on it.

They are not for support of anything but a towel.

A sturdy grab bar installed in it's place is a good idea.

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Being as I'm now one legged at times, I bought and installed a STRIPPER POLE, in my bathroom, to assist in getting up off the toilet, and to disrobe before getting into the shower.

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I have installed two Delta grab bars in showers that are held in place with toggle bolts through the backer board.

You could put a lot of weight on the bar before the backer board would let go.

Is there something wrong with that approach?
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I've used toggles & I've used anchors. I've never had any bar loosen. I always tell the customer to call me immediately if that happens.
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She ended up using a shower chair. Don't know what's up with my brother, but no way to treat your mom for sure.
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