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Old 04-30-2019, 12:52 PM   #1
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Floating Tile - Should We Be Worried? - Torn Paper and Mud Gaps


We are remodeling a bathroom and our contractor is floating the wall tile above the alcove bathtub.

We are concerned about a few issues:

1) There is a large tear at the top of the paper that is supposed to go inside the shower niche alcove. How big a problem is this? Our contractor says it is no big deal, but it seems concerning to us.

2) In addition, there are multiple gaps in which sections of exposed wire mesh are not covered with the grey mud that is used everywhere else. The ones where the bottom of the tile will meet the top of the tub seem especially concerning.

Per our contractor this shower alcove is ready for mortar and tile. Is he right? We are skeptical but want to seek out the advice of an expert or two before we make a stink about it.

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Old 04-30-2019, 03:29 PM   #2
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Is he finishing it with stone or tile? I honestly do not believe the substrate and scratch coat is smooth enough for tile. He may be a magician, and IMO that is what it till take to make this tile job work. I wish you success with it and I hope he knows what he is doing.
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The tear looks like an issue because moisture will be able to enter the wall cavity.
Can't be ready for tile yet. Can't put tile directly over paper.

This is definitely not going to be a 20 year tile job. Modern materials allow for a 100% vapor barrier under the thinset which means zero moisture gets to the wall cavity. In this case there is a swiss cheese moisture barrier under the "tile backer" which will eventually allow moisture into the wall cavity which is good for mold.
If it were me I would not let any tile go up until all gaps are filled in and a liquid vapor barrier is applied. RedGuard, Hydro Ban, etc...
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It is being finished with tile.
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It is being finished with tile.
Please post pictures of the progress. I'd like to see how he does it.
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Well... that is a new (probably maybe old timey) shower assembly to me.

What has he done..... placed 15-30 felt on the studs (or what is backing on the studs), no real vapor barrier, then used diamond screed stappled up, and mudded or thinset over that.... and he's ready to tile....?????

I would be extreemly skeptical of this assembly.... does this guy have reference or anything.....

And on top of that, it looks haphazard and a crappy job....

SORRY... but I think you have some real problems here... like maybe start over with a competant tile contractor... did you get this guy off Craigs List or the Home Depot parking lot.....?

There are many superior systems to this... not necessarily more costly.

Good luck.... I do hope I am wrong...

Explain to us exactly how that assembly is built.....
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