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Old 09-26-2017, 10:32 AM   #1
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Finishing up regrout


Shower regrout is done. 2 questions...

1)Apply grout sealer before or after caulking?

2)Everyone recommends 100% silicone for corners.

-100% Silicone last longer,but is there some other huge advantage to siliconized acrylic caulk

Im really comfortable with latex caulk

I tried a test bead with GE silicone, bead looked horrible, and 2days after applying it I gave it a tug, it peeled off
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As to finishing of the bead, silicon skims very quickly... so one/maybe two/ wipes.... and a wet finger can help........ (obviously, latex works easier)

Silicon has excellent adhesion/sealing..... your tile was not clean.

Also, be aware, silicon goes bad in the tube over time or especially if stored to high heat (dashboard of the car in the sun). Was your silicon "fresh".
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MTN is right, if silicon peeled off, the surface was not properly repaired. I tried the acrylic before and it only lasted two years.

You have to bit the bullet and do the proper prep, which takes time. I actually spent a week prepping our main tile shower.

Cleaned both sides of the joint with a straight razor,
Cleaned/wiped down the joints with ISP Alcohol and then went back over with the razor
to make sure it was clean.
Taped both sides of the joint with painters tape.

It took a week because I worked on the shower for about one to two hours each evening. Any more, I tended to take short cuts.

Prior to applying caulk,
I got an empty card board box,
a few rags and my alcohol
Applied caulk,
one finger pass over the joint
wipe finger with alcohol rag,
remove tape and discard into box
one last light pass with finger.
Did the above for each section.
Call it done.

You will make quite a mess if you don't have the box, rags and alcohol at the ready.

Then find some drinking alcohol and sit back and admire your work.
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MTN is right, if silicon peeled off, the surface was not properly repaired. I tried the acrylic before and it only lasted two years.

You have to bit the bullet and do the proper prep, which takes time. I actually spent a week prepping our main tile shower.

Cleaned both sides of the joint with a straight razor,
Cleaned/wiped down the joints with ISP Alcohol and then went back over with the razor
to make sure it was clean.
Taped both sides of the joint with painters tape.

It took a week because I worked on the shower for about one to two hours each evening. Any more, I tended to take short cuts.

Prior to applying caulk,
I got an empty card board box,
a few rags and my alcohol
Applied caulk,
one finger pass over the joint
wipe finger with alcohol rag,
remove tape and discard into box
one last light pass with finger.
Did the above for each section.
Call it done.

You will make quite a mess if you don't have the box, rags and alcohol at the ready.

Then find some drinking alcohol and sit back and admire your work.
New Tube My test run was on the 4 tiles replaced during the regrout maybe there is residue I cant see,or last owner put some sort of sealant on the tiles. It was a PIA to do a 2 ft bead. The real thing will be 60' total. (3'x4'x8' shower).

If something like DAP Kwik seal Ultra will give me waterproof seal for 2 years, I might just use that till I get better with silicone... get more practice on places where it matter less.
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It is a PIA, but something you don't want to short cut. Do another test run using tape on both sides of the joint. You will see that you can caulk like a pro.

Caulking is a lot less work than ripping a shower out because of water damage.
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It is a PIA, but something you don't want to short cut. Do another test run using tape on both sides of the joint. You will see that you can caulk like a pro.

Caulking is a lot less work than ripping a shower out because of water damage.
Fine.

Should I spray the surface with 100% Isopropyl Alcohol to help tool/keep from skinning. This going to require a lot of going up and down on a ladder, Its going to take 30min to do the whole thing
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If I understand your question, you don't want to caulk all the joints and then go back and start smoothing the caulk.

I do one plane at a time, ie, start in the top of one corner, caulk joint from top to bottom, smooth, remove tape, smooth, on to the next plane.

You will still have enough time to make a smooth transition at the corners.

I always start where I ended taping. That way when you remove the tape, the tape joint is over top, not underneath.
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MTN is right, if silicon peeled off, the surface was not properly repaired. I tried the acrylic before and it only lasted two years.

You have to bit the bullet and do the proper prep, which takes time. I actually spent a week prepping our main tile shower.

Cleaned both sides of the joint with a straight razor,
Cleaned/wiped down the joints with ISP Alcohol and then went back over with the razor
to make sure it was clean.
Taped both sides of the joint with painters tape.

It took a week because I worked on the shower for about one to two hours each evening. Any more, I tended to take short cuts.

Prior to applying caulk,
I got an empty card board box,
a few rags and my alcohol
Applied caulk,
one finger pass over the joint
wipe finger with alcohol rag,

remove tape and discard into box
one last light pass with finger.
Did the above for each section.
Call it done.

You will make quite a mess if you don't have the box, rags and alcohol at the ready.

Then find some drinking alcohol and sit back and admire your work.



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