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Old 10-06-2014, 12:28 AM   #1
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Duravit Duraplan waterproofing


Hello Gents,

I acquired a Duravit Duraplan shower pan and have a few questions about waterproofing such.



The shower pan consits of a base frame that gets anchored to the floor. In it sits an adjustable frame that holds the actual pan. According to the instructions, the base frame needs to be installed first (see picture 3) and made waterproof (see picture 24, 25 and 26).

My question is related to the use of Laticrete Hydro Ban in comination with this shower pan.

As you can see on picture 27, there is a small gap between the base frame and the wall. They use a membrane in this area.

How would I install this using Hydro Ban? I know Hydro Ban can be used with Laticrete "Waterproofing/Anti-Fracture Fabric". Is this the right product to be used here?

For reference, this is the Duraplan installation manual: http://www.duravit.us/website/zip/ge...lan.pdf.pdf%7C
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Have you tried contacting Laticrete technical? That would be the best bet.
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Have you tried contacting Laticrete technical? That would be the best bet.
Well, the good news is, that is was a good idea to contact Laticrete tech support.

The bad news is, that they are concerned with using it for this application because of the large steel surface that the angled frame represents.

Would you guys know of an alternative product? I looked at Ardex 8+9 and RedGard before.
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Laticrete might be concerned, and won't warrenty the application, but that doesn't mean it won't work. If it were me I'd go with the hydroban with the fiber tape they sell.
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Laticrete might be concerned, and won't warrenty the application, but that doesn't mean it won't work. If it were me I'd go with the hydroban with the fiber tape they sell.
Hello James,

I thought about that too. Another point they made, was that the support feet under the shower pan would sit on the hydro ban membrane (see attached picture). It is supposed to be covered with tile and they are concerned about the point load. What are your thoughts about this?
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If there's enough play, I would install some type of larger composite blocks under those feet to distribute the load.
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Looks like I am going with Ardex 8+9. Does somebody have experience with this product? How would I seal around shower arm, shower valve opening and drain? I think I need to use anti-fracture fabric.
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Have you tried contacting Duravit? They also have a Tech department that might be able to guide you.
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Have you tried contacting Duravit? They also have a Tech department that might be able to guide you.
Yes I did. Useless... They told me I could use any epoxy paint to seal it... Then after pressing for more info they told me to use Hydro Ban even though I told them before that Laticrete told me not to use it for this application.

Could someone comment on my Ardex 8+9 questions.
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