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Old 07-02-2015, 10:48 PM   #106
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What is your reasoning for mixing it on the garage floor as opposed to a wheelbarrel? I'd have to buy a mixing tub if I did that... I figured I'd use the wheelbarrel to mix everything, since I have it, then fill up my pail as much as I can with the mud, bring it into the washroom, use everything, when the pail's empty, go back in garage and fill up the pail with more mud from wheelbarrel. When the barrel is finally empty, I'd mix some more in there and repeat the process.

Silly question but how do I know whether I should buy more 60lb bags or less 80lb bags?

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Old 07-02-2015, 10:55 PM   #107
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Found this for Quikrete's Sand/Topping Mix:

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If the area is 32 sq. ft. and it's 1.5" thick, get 6 bags #60 and about 150 lb. of sand. You should have about half a bag of mix left over but use all the sand.

So mix 3 bags and about 75 lbs. of sand at a time.

Does that make sense with your figures?

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So, it's 55 lb. in Canada? I haven't checked here lately but supposed to be 60 & 80.

Much easier to mix on the garage floor and it won't stick at all. So you just sweep when done and no stain. Wheelbarrow won't hold much and liable to tip over.

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I figured I'd use the wheelbarrel to mix everything, since I have it, then fill up my pail as much as I can with the mud, bring it into the washroom, use everything, when the pail's empty, go back in garage and fill up the pail with more mud from wheelbarrel.
Do it that way and it'l take you all day. Mix, take it inside, dump 2-3 pails, go get more. Meanwhile spread and screed it........

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If the area is 32 sq. ft. and it's 1.5" thick, get 6 bags #60 and about 150 lb. of sand. You should have about half a bag of mix left over but use all the sand.

So mix 3 bags and about 75 lbs. of sand at a time.

Does that make sense with your figures?

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So, it's 55 lb. in Canada? I haven't checked here lately but supposed to be 60 & 80.



Much easier to mix on the garage floor and it won't stick at all. So you just sweep when done and no stain. Wheelbarrow won't hold much and liable to tip over.







Do it that way and it'l take you all day. Mix, take it inside, dump 2-3 pails, go get more. Meanwhile spread and screed it........



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I took a peek at my local Home Depot (here in Canada) yesterday and the Quikrete Sand/Topping Mix bags come in 66lbs:

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And I have two brand new 66lb bags of Quikrete All-Purppse Sand left over from a previous project.

So just as a final confirmation:

I buy 6 of those 66lb Quikrete Sand/Topping Mix bags and one more 66lb bag of Quikrete All-Purpose Sand, then mix 3 of those 66lb Quikrete Sand/Topping Mix bags together with about 75lbs of the sand (so half of the 3 sand bags-- or one and a half bags of sand per mix)?

My garage floor is rough concrete; do you mean to empty the mix and sand directly on the concrete and mix with water?😕 Or you meant in a concrete mixing tub? Because won't the water that I add seep away if I'm mixing it on the floor?

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My garage floor is rough concrete; do you mean to empty the mix and sand directly on the concrete and mix with water?�� Or you meant in a concrete mixing tub? Because won't the water that I add seep away if I'm mixing it on the floor?
Nevermind the above. Is this what you're talking about doing?:



The video says it will leave a "white/grey mark" on the ground so I think I'll just do that on a scrap piece of 4x8 ft OSB that I have, still in my garage though. If for example, I mix 3 bags and about 75 lbs. of sand at a time, put them in the buckets, bring them into the washroom and start working, and then need more, will there be any harm done that the first batch of mud will be set while I'm hustling the mix the remaining batch and add it?
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*hustling to mix
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I'm guessing you're done by now. How did it go?

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No I didnt do it yet, just bought the bags. I'll probably do it Sunday.
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Just got done with my sister's boyfriend. It only took us one batch consisting of:

3 bags of Quikrete Sand/Topping Mix
1 bag of Quikrete All-Purpose Sand

We didn't need as much as we anticipated because the subfloor wasn't even to begin with...we corrected that.

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It's far from perfect but we'll see how it holds up.

Anything I should do in the meantime? Curing time before bath installation/safe to walk on? Curing time before tile installation?

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Looks good from here. How thick did it end up being at the thinnest point? If you wanna go by "the book", let it dry 3 days before you set the tiles. In the real world the tiles would have been set immediately after the mud was finished then it would all dry together. But it's best to wait a few days. If you want to cure harder/faster, dampen it several times a day for 3 days.

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How thick did it end up being at the thinnest point?
No idea, we completely winged it. We were just concerned with the butt against the new tiles being workable for laying the new tiles flush. Like I said, far from perfect. 30 seconds in I realized I was in over my head and just wanted to get it over with knowing it would be a horrible job. At the point I was more concerned with not making it too high for the tile butt.

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In the real world the tiles would have been set immediately after the mud was finished then it would all dry together.
Wow, everyone was telling me that's the way it's supposed to be done but I was refuting it because I was being instructed to do it this way. I feel like a fool now. But just to be clear, that wasn't an option for me (setting the tiles immediately after the mud was finished) since the bathtub would still had to have gone in)?

What happens now if the deck mud is either:
  1. Isn't level or;
  2. is too low for a flush butt with the existing tile?

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How exactly do I dampen it?

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If you've got low spots just skim with thinset, but no more than " at a time. Get a straight edge and analyze it then fix it.

You dampen it by getting it wet. It's not absolutely necessary in this case but you do this to all concrete, haven't you ever seen that after a driveway is poured as an example?

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Nop, never did/seen masonry work being done. Will I be needing any of those 3 unused bags (Sand/Toping Mix) or can I return them for the thinset I'll eventually need for the tiles? (P.S.: how do I make the thinset/what do I need?)
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