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Old 07-01-2015, 12:12 PM   #91
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Started with a small form for the pour.

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The floor isn't level so I'll have to level it out as much as possible when putting the deck mud. Then again, my priority is meeting the existing tile at whatever level it's at...
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You've got the idea.

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Old 07-01-2015, 06:12 PM   #94
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Do the tarpaper and metal sheet need to be stapled to the subfloor?

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Yes----you do not want it shifting as you work---
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Old 07-01-2015, 07:23 PM   #96
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Yes, of course. A few for the tarpaper just to hold it, then the lath. Use plenty of " staples to eliminate any bounce. Be sure to overlap the lath as in my pic.

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Be sure to overlap the lath as in my pic.

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Good tip.

How long will I have to work with the mud before it hardens beyond manipulation?

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I couldn't answer that even if I knew the temp, humidity, wind conditions and exposure to the sun. In general I'l say 45-60 minutes or so.

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How come I see people on YouTube saying that some bigger showerpans can take up to 3 hours to mud? How would that work if they only have about an hour or so of time to work with it before it starts hardening?
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I don't know what they say or how they work. Ask them if you want.

Once you mix it you don't just leave it in a pile and work with part of the mix to the end and then go get another pail and work with that until it's placed and smooth. On a larger job you have someone help you. Sometimes you mix 2 batches. Sometimes it's 50 degrees. You also can dampen the tarpaper a little.

I've killed some time and watched some of those tile installation videos on You Tube. Many are kinda entertaining.

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Once you mix it you don't just leave it in a pile and work with part of the mix to the end and then go get another pail and work with that until it's placed and smooth.
So if the area I will be mudding is 32sq feet (at 1 1/2" thickness), you're telling me that I need to have all the mud for that area mixed at the same time and then just pour it all on the lath/tarpaper and work with all of it at the same time? I'm a bit confused sorry
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I ended up buying a 100ft roll of #15 paper for 20$, cut it down to size and overlapped two 3ftx8ft strips one on top of the other.

I also overlaped the lath and was liberal with the stappler to make sure it lays flat.

I left a lip/overhang all around the area to be mudded (minus the side that needs to butt with the existing tile)...I wasn't too sure about this part.

Anything else I should know before proceeding?

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Looks ok from here. What about that broken tile?

You should mix about half the amount I think. It's up to you. I recommend you splash a little water on the paper just before you place the mud to help moisten it. Be sure you mix the mud correctly, don't make it too wet or it'l be more difficult to work with. Have the tools ready and plan your attack.

Where will you mix it and are you working alone?

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Looks ok from here. What about that broken tile?

You should mix about half the amount I think. It's up to you. I recommend you splash a little water on the paper just before you place the mud to help moisten it. Be sure you mix the mud correctly, don't make it too wet or it'l be more difficult to work with. Have the tools ready and plan your attack.

Where will you mix it and are you working alone?

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The broken tile will be removed before the mud job. I have to borrow my dad's angle grinder to free-up the grout before being able to remove that tile, just to avoid any other adjacent tiles from coming off with it. Afterwards, because I'm expecting that tile to rip off some mud with it (or crumble it), I'll take a paint brush and paint some concrete glue onto the exposed crumbled mud that was below the tile, then mud that area level for a new tile at the same time as the mud job.

I'm sorry to bring this up again but I'm still uncertain how many bags of sand/top mix and sand I need for my job. So when you say to mix "half the amount," I'm uncertain how many bags that is. Do you mean to say, for instance, that if I need ten 66lb bags of Quikrete Sand/Top Mix, I should empty five of those bags into my wheelbarrow, add 150lbs of sand (because 30lbs of sand for each 66lbs bag to acheive the 5:1 ratio), and then work with all that untill I need more?

I will be working alone, but I can ask my family members to be there to hand me things or help me here and there but they wouldn't know what they'd be doing (all women, no sexism implied)...

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Wheelbarrow huh? I wouldn't do that, but ok. Why not mix it on your garage floor?

I gave you the formula in #78 I think.

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