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Old 06-29-2015, 05:14 PM   #76
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I'm assuming the floor doesn't need to be pre-sloped since I'm prepping for a bath and not a shower, right?
HUH? Many years ago I looked at a tub surround estimate where the homeowner installed the tub with a pitch so the water would drain. No seriously.

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Old 06-29-2015, 05:18 PM   #77
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Lol ok. I'm telling you Jaz, I'm a real newbie so once this ball gets rollin' I'm gonna have a lot of things I'll be checking in with on this thread haha

How do I calculate how many bags of Quikrete I'll need for the area that needs to be covered?

What type of steel mesh will I need?

What type of tarpaper will I need?

I'm planning to go pick up the supplies for the deck much Wednesday so I'd like to know what I need to buy. And I won't be using a plywood sheet afterall since I had forgotten about the tarpaper.

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Old 06-29-2015, 06:12 PM   #78
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Lol ok. I'm telling you Jaz, I'm a real newbie so once this ball gets rollin' I'm gonna have a lot of things I'll be checking in with on this thread haha
Good, and I promise the first few answers will be free.

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How do I calculate how many bags of Quikrete I'll need for the area that needs to be covered?
First you'll need to know which Quikrete product to use. I have a feeling you already know. If not, it's Sand Topping Mix. it's 3:1 in the bag, so add sand to make it close to 5:1. Remember it's mixed by volume not weight. But either will be close.

80 lb. = .66 cubic ft. = 7.8 sq. ft @ 1" thick.
60 lb. = .50 cubic ft. = 6 sq. ft. @ 1" thick.

Be sure to calculate the additional sand to above figures. But as you know the big box stores will take back unused bags in good condition.

You do the math, and let's compare later.

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What type of steel mesh will I need?
All they have is galvanized expanded diamond lath which is what we tile guys always use. Hardly a chance for error.

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#15, #30, slater's felt, plastic sheets, garbage bags, sandwich bags, I don't care. Stapler for paper and lath.

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Old 06-29-2015, 06:55 PM   #79
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You do the math, and let's compare later.
Am I aiming for a deck mud that will be 1 5/8"?:


I'm asking because I'm not sure how many inches, or increments of an inch, the mortar will account for:


So I'll need to buy some bags of sand as well? I'm confused how I'll know when I've reached the 5:1 sand to cement ratio by adding sand... bare with me

The area to be poured is 4 ft x 8 ft.
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Am I aiming for a deck mud that will be 1 5/8"?:
Well....... I can't tell from here cuz the view is on a slight angle. Ok let's go back a bit. Originally I was thinking you'd want to fill the hole flat with the top of the tiles then re tile the entire floor over the old. But now I recall you said something about salvaging some tile and using them to finish the floor. Is that right? They used the same tile on the wall & floor? If so, this is gonna make your job more difficult. Still very doable for a newbie though.

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So I'll need to buy some bags of sand as well? I'm confused how I'll know when I've reached the 5:1 sand to cement ratio by adding sand.
It's 3:1 as is. You can go 4:1 - 5:1 - even 7:1 and be ok. Just add perhaps 20 lbs +- for each bag and it'll be fine. I've used it straight, but that would be harder to work with. It's not rocket science, as you can see.

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Why more difficult that floor and wall tiles are the same?
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No, sorry, not more difficult because of the tile. More difficult cuz you're not re tiling the whole floor, just adding/butting to what's there.

Sorry, I missed some of the posts and assumed you were gonna re tile the floor, tile over tile.

So now you're going to make the new mud the thickness of the installed tile thinner than I thought.

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No worries Jaz.

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So now you're going to make the new mud the thickness of the installed tile thinner than I thought.

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Can you rephrase that please? I don't quite understand what you mean.
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Are you installing new tiles over the entire floor, or filling in where we see planks now?

If the latter, the new mud needs to be about 5/16" below the top of the tiles. Didn't I read you had salvaged enough wall tiles to use on the floor? I don't know how you were able to do that. Must have been a lousy mastic installation.

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I'm only filling in where we see planks. However, because the tub and the adjoining towel cabinet will take up all the flooring up to approximately 30" off the exterior wall, the tile only needs to be applied the remainder of the way along the floor until it meets the existing tile. I was able to saved about 50 full tiles when demo-ing. I guess you're right about the mastic. Don't forget how many tiles I removed versus how few I'll need for my task:
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And the area on the floor to be tiled is no more than 8ft x 3.5ft once the tub and cabinet will be in place:

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And you say 5/16" below the top of the tile but from this image, the thickness of the tile itself is already 7/16"...

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Are you sure you don't mean that the mud needs to reach 5/16" from the underside of the tile (the tile the thinset gets applied)?
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When I referred to 5/16", we were discussing roughly how much mortar mix you needed and so I was talking about the approximate thickness of the tiles. 5/16", 7/16" what's the difference? Those are all things you have to figure out cuz you're the one doing it and saving all the money.

There's gonna be dozens of decisions you'll need to make on your own, and I'm sure you've already done that in this project. We can't explain every single step you'll be taking, seems to me. Next...................

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Ok yes. I'll post back soon with progress/questions.
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I couldn't nail or drive the screws in because the next joist was in my way so I drilled some tiny pilot holes and ractcheted four 3" screws at each corner of the 16" sister joist of the same dimension that I added.

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Sturdy as can be. Was standing on the piece with no problems.
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