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Ok, here's the wrap up for anyone just joining the thread:

This is where I'm at now. The boards are all on (CBU), I've scraped the old mastic off the old drywall so it's flat for tiling.

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The window is going to be tricky because of how far out the drywall came. I'm not exactly sure how to do the window:

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I bought this for the seams:

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The rep said it's modified and it was white so I snagged it. Bought the proper CBU seam tape also while I was at HD.

The rep also saw me pick up two 1 gallon buckets of RedGard at told me that for a bathtub the waterproofing isn't necessary and that it was overkill unless it was an actuall shower (inb4 jaz gets mad at me). I didn't buy the RedGard today and just the mortar since I didn't need it right away anyways.

Also, I don't know how to fix this corner here:

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Does the cement board mesh tape go on the inside and outside corners or only the flat seams? How exactly would I get that corner to be like the rest of the lower wall?

Lastly, for the ceiling, do I stuff some drywall compound in that over sized hole or do I just fill it with mortar and then put the seam tape there too?
Smoozle a bunch of thin set into that corner (not so wet that it sags) and then tape, and then smoozle some more on top of the tape for a nice corner.

I didn't see a hole in the ceiling.
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Not a hole I meant the gap between the wall drywall and the ceiling.
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Not a hole I meant the gap between the wall drywall and the ceiling.
Same thing.
Fill it with thin set before applying the tape.

For you window, some stainless flashing bent to go in the sill area and maybe a 1/2" lip to overlap the tiles. This would be custom made of course.

A marble ledge would do the same thing as long as it sticks out further than the tiles and is sealed underneath where the tiles and sill meet.
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Close this thread. Im done. I lost my temper working with the thinset and was about to start ripping everything apart.

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Close this thread. Im done. I lost my temper working with the thinset and was about to start ripping everything apart.
Did you add too much water? It shouldn't be runny.


BTW, closing the thread won't help get the job done.
Take a deep breath.

BTW, take your time smoothing it into place. My mistake has always been trying to rush any kind of thin set, grout , etc...
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No the consistency was fine. Just like peanut butter. I took many deep breath. I'm getting a tilesman to finish the job. Thats all that's left anyways. Tile the tub and finish the floor.
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From the very beginning this remodel has been out of my hands. This project has put so much pressure on me to do so many things I've never done before or even had explained in person. I've been winging it this whole time.
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From the very beginning this remodel has been out of my hands. This project has put so much pressure on me to do so many things I've never done before or even had explained in person. I've been winging it this whole time.
Your "winging it" had been outstanding to this point.

Do you really want to quit?
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I could feel your frustration building----you have done a fine job so far---

If you choose to have a tile setter finish the job, there is no shame in that---

I've built a lot of bathrooms---so much is second nature for me now---but I was not born knowing this work--I still have screw ups--and have learned a lot from the members here.

What ever you decide to do--keep us posted.
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I agree if you decide to call it quits there's no shame at all cuz you've recognized your limitations, and heck, you've done a lot of the work already.

There's still much to do. Waterproofing that window is the biggest job. I don't recommend any type of flashing since it would have to be nailed in place which means holes. Someone has to finish the cbu on the window jamb, make the front flush then caulk and waterproof it. Remember that the job has to be waterproofed before any tiles are installed. If you chose not to apply surface waterproofing on the main walls, it may not cause a failure. But the window and other vulnerable areas need it.

As for the end of that wall.....seen in the last two pics listed; http://www.diychatroom.com/attachmen...145.163165.jpg You need to install the wallboard and finish the corners before the tiles are installed. Do not use gypsum compound where the tiles will be.

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Your "winging it" had been outstanding to this point.

Do you really want to quit?
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I could feel your frustration building----you have done a fine job so far---

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I agree if you decide to call it quits there's no shame at all cuz you've recognized your limitations, and heck, you've done a lot of the work already.
Man, you guys are making it so tempting for me to give it another go, saying all those nice things . If only I could find a visual demonstration (video) of mortar being applied to CBU to get a better idea of how it's done.

For the record, I'm 23 and have no construction or building experience. I'm a university student and everything I do has been learned through trial and error and YouTube (but 90% of what the users on this forum have taught me). I've never had anyone to teach me this stuff.

The main issues that bothered me today are:

I made the mistake of mixing too much thinset at once (I overestimated how much the sand would produce when mixed with water then was rushing to apply it to the seams). I was trying to apply it to the seam with both a wide putty knife and a flat trowel but the thinset but I wasn't skilled enough to get it in there with ease; the thinset getting dropping off my trowel onto the tub surface as I tried smearing it into/against the seams. Then, to make matters worse, when I had a hard time cutting the mesh tape: I've seen drywall workers lay the mesh over the thinset, then use their putty knife to cut the tape flush with a swift tug on the roll...that wasn't working, it would just pull the whole length of tape of the mortared seam. So I started rushing to measure the tape and cut it with scissors. The when I laid it over the thinset that was also half-wedged into the seam and tried passing my knife of the tipe to embed it into the thinset, rather than embedding the tape in to the mortar, the trowel would often drag the tape with it. At that point, I just started losing patience. Thinset was all over the tub surface (thankfully covered) and floor, compounded with the rush against time I was facing for underestimating the setting time and load I prepared, I started to lose my temper. I was having difficulty with the horizontal and vertical flat seams therefore didn't even dare to attempt taping the inside and outside edges. I wouldn't even know how to use my flat trowel to press the thinset into corners. Overall I was just too agitated because I was rushing against time.

This is where I stand:
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Your mud work looks acceptable.

Thinset mixing gets easier with experience---I recommend a 1/2" drill and mixing paddle---but smaller batches can be done by hand---

There must be some good youtube videos on mixing and troweling---I won't have time to dig anything up till tomorrow.
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5:22 http://youtu.be/hFZNltmI0Ts

That's the best I could find. Man they make it look so easy when its on the floor as opposed to the wall.. No excess falls.

I think if I try again I'll try using a different trowel, like a pointing trowel or something that will make it easier to get closer to the board.
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