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Old 07-20-2015, 05:07 AM   #196
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I kind of can't throw it away since its part of the moen set when i got my mixing valve..
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:19 AM   #197
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My current situation:

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Is the spout a 'slip on' or is it a threaded one?

If it is a slip on, you will be fine as long as the spout piping is secure and will not move AT ALL.

If it is a thread on----You will find it much easier to install if the 90 is replaced with a threaded flange.

If you have the threaded flange with a removable stub out---when the tiling is complete---mark the stub out at the wall---then thread another into the spout--mark that where the back of the spout is---cut both at your marks---solder them together with a coupling---perfect length---
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:41 AM   #199
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I have a thread on spout.

The problem is that replacing that 90 wont be easy the way my nutjob plumber soldered both pipes together. But the female thread on my spout is all the way inside (i.e.: where the water comes out), so I think I'll just cut the pipe and solder a male connector on the end.

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I see that----very unusual piping-----

If you warm that point with a torch, it will come apart---

Thread on spouts are a challenge (pain in the butt)---unless you can make up a threaded nipple to fit---

I do not know what else to say---I would want a threaded drop eared flange where that 90 is---

That 'plumber' used some odd methods---
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I can't take those two pipes apart because he soldered them together to give structural support/rigidity to the spout, since he didn't want to put a wood blocking to screw it into.

Why are threaded spouts a challenge? Is there something I'm missing here?

1. Install CBU
2. Instal tile
3. See how much pipe needs to be cut
4. Cut pipe
5. Solder male adapter
6. Screw on spout

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The challenge is getting EXACTLY the right length---to short and it leaks---to long and the spout is off the wall or upside down---

You can do it---however--more than one attempt might be needed--It can be frustrating----I know because I have had to do it that way.
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thanks for the heads up mike, I think I'll try my luck with the screw on spout because putting a threaded drop eared flange where that 90 is asking for a mess. I'd have to heat the solder between both pipes enough so it unsticks which may ruin the joints there as well, not to mention, I'd have no possible way of adding a new blocking for the spout once the pipes would be seperated, since the air hammer/cushion is blocking.

Anywho, this is where I stand now.
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I don't have a hole saw or a jigsaw. I was planning to do something like this for the valve, showerhead and spout:

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Is that OK? How big do the holes need to be for the showerhead and the tub spout?
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I don't have a hole saw or a jigsaw. I was planning to do something like this for the valve, showerhead and spout:


Is that OK? How big do the holes need to be for the showerhead and the tub spout?
It will work. The holes for the spout and showerhead should be just big enough to slide the pipe through.

Just my opinion, but I would buy the extra sheet of backerboard and eliminate the drywall pieces.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:41 PM   #206
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Just my opinion, but I would buy the extra sheet of backerboard and eliminate the drywall pieces.
Thanks for your advice but I'll take my chances. There isn't much drywall in there, and where there is, it's up high, away from the water. I will be waterproofing either way and the tile-work will go all the way to the ceiling.





Bear with me while I make a strange request/question.

In an effort to avoid taking out another column of the old tile, behind which there is a crooked stud from top to bottom (which would make butting two pieces of drywall/CBU a nightmare), I think what I will do is keep the wall as is. I will simply screw a sister stud along the crooked one for fastening the CBU. However, I will attempt to scribe the CBU to fit tight against the current crooked drywall.



I have never scribed anything before, only seen it done. Any tips for making this go smoother? Isn't there a way to scribe where I can make the measurements on the opposite side of the wall, like he's doing in the below video at 11min 36sec:

http://youtu.be/A9xb7cMa51k

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Your joint doesn't have to be perfect. You can fill the gap with thinset. The only issue that may arise is you can't tape the joint. It could crack over time and crack the ground joint too.
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I forgot about having to put the fiberglass mesh tape. Damn. You're right, it'll be tight.

What do you sugest I do to put the last CBU board?
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I was thinking that maybe it would be easier to take out one more column of the old tile (enough so that the full 32"x5' CBU can be installed without cutting it). And then just add blocking and leave enough of the old drywall to tape the seam between both pieces. The only difficulty I will have with this approach is that I'll need to get all the old mastic of the old drywall that I will expose, so I can re-glue tile once the seam will be taped.

I heard heat guns work well but I'm tempted to just use a putty knife to scrape it off. Any tips for this step?
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Now that I'm looking at the last photo on a PC, it's clearer that you do have a surface to tape to. I think you'll be OK.

You need to make sure the joint after taping is completely flat or you will wind up with a bump where the old and new tile meet. Before you fully screw in the last sheet, test the "flatness with a tile going up the seam just to be sure you won't have a bump.
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