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Old 07-06-2015, 06:59 PM   #136
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Yup yup.

So as soon as those 3 days are up I'll get to work installing the tub and overflow.

Anything I should keep in mind for this step?
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What sort of drain set are you using? Is the drain accessable from below?

The tub--cast iron or fiber glass?
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I believe this is the tub: http://www.renodepot.com/en/cranada-bathtub-00535010

And this is the drain and overflow assembly we purchased: http://www.renodepot.com/en/abs-bath-overflow-1236428 (it's like a kit):



..the problem is I don't exactly know what piece I need to connect that overflow to this threaded pipe that's under my sub-floor:



No, the drain isn't accessible from below but it's accessible via an access panel behind the shower wall.

As a side note, given what we've just established about a vapor sandwich, does this mean that if the following re-modeler waterproofs his backer-board, he's made that mistake?:



Also, I have a spare 6 foot of ABS pipe in my garage from a previous project. I was thinking of returning the kit and just buying the parts separately to save a few, worth it? And which of the four drain plug types is the best? Right now I have the one that you plug with a rubber stopper that's chained to the tub...

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The stopper type is a personal preference--is the existing drain plastic or galvanized steel? Is it centered to the new tub? How far away from the framing?

Look at the installation instructions from the tub manufacturer---often a few piles of mortar are used under the tub to help support the bottom---the tub is wiggled into the mortar to squish it out and leave enough to support the bottom---
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The existing drain is ABS/DWV. The tub hasn't been set in place yet but the p-trap operates on a swivel so it has a pretty workable range-of-motion and therefore can be adjusted from left to right fairly easily.

OK, I'll see what the instructions say.

The deck mud seems pretty hard now. If I knock on it, it makes a hard sound. I've been misting its surfaces several times a day. I would like to get to work installing the tub Wednesday (tomorrow) but am worried that moving the tub (enameled steel) back and forth will dig up into the mud, since the consistency is sturdy for mounting, but doesn't seem rugged enough to take use without tiles.

Come to think of it, now that the deck mud is solid, I would like to try to make sure that everything is as level as possible and correct any high or low valleys with the thinset. How do I go about doing this? Do I just do like I did with the deck mud; compact the thinset into the existing deck mud with my wooden float, screed and finish with a flat trowel?

Will the mud be OK? Because I'm going to have to set the tub and remove it at-least twice to make some measurements before re-plumbing for the shower valve and overflow/drain...

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I did not see the picture yesterday--sorry---

Cut off the threaded fitting---use a coupling instead----
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Typically, when you are ready to set the tub permanently---you mix up a soft ,mix of mortar---scoop out 4 to 6 'cow pile' of the mushy mortar where the tub will rest--

Set the tub gently onto the soft mortar---wiggle the tub until it is level and where you want it---avoid stepping into the tub---than might over compress the mortar --leaving a hollow when it springs back---

When in position,add your roofing nails or screws and washers above the rim ,to keep it in place--
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The deck mud is worse than I suspected. I put the level on the finished floor and its out of level. Not sure where to go from here...

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Not only is the mud not level, but it's not straight/flat either, and it's too low too.

How will this work now? Will I have to forget about making the mud level and simply focus on making it "level" with the existing unlevel tile?

Edit: Can't I just mix some thinset mortax, back-butter the tiles very generously, then lay the tiles down, pressing them down until they're level with the neighbooring tile from the existing floor?

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This is a straight 2x4, just to give you guys a better idea:

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Not only is the mud not level, but it's not straight/flat either, and it's too low too.
It also looks like it was never troweled.

That last pic looks pretty bad alright. You'll have to use a patching cement or maybe rip it out and start over except plan a little better.

No, you can't compact thinset like the deck mud. Thinset is sticky and is not for leveling floors.

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Yup, on the verge of giving up and paying to have it finished.

1. Just realized the tub is too small for the bathroom and it looks funny.

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2. The deck mud is turning out to be a nightmare because I don't know what I'm doing.

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3. It looks like I'm going to have to relocate a stud that falls where the showerhead pipe needs to be.

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4. Had to remove the radio/PA system that was in the kitchen since the stud that requires moving is what's holding it in place.

5. At the end of the day I'll still have a drain pipe sticking out of the ground from that lousy biddet.

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6. I just realized I'd need to put a fan which would not only require more work but opening the ceiling and going through the exterior brick.

In general, this project requires matching new styles with old existing ones, which is counter-intuitive to the very nature of renovating. Perfume the big indeed.

I give up.

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Sometimes it's best to do what you know how to do and hire the rest. We've helped people do all type of projects, even folks that had few skills. It can be done if you put your mind to it, follow directions, and have the time.

There's no shame if you feel overwhelmed, chances are I can't do whatever it is you do/did for a living. Keep asking Q's though.

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I'll give it some thought. I'm too angry with everything right now.
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Question: does it look silly to have a 60" tub in that sized washroom?

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60" is the standard size, they do make larger though. You could build a wall and make a closet or a bench. What was the plan? Were you going to build a pony wall?

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