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Solidify 06-18-2015 11:45 AM

Advice on Bathroom Remodel
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We have a 72 inch tub in our main washroom. House was built in 1972 so the tiled step that was used to step up into the tub had a bunch of broken/severed tiles, so we decided we'd fix it. The problem is, we don't exactly know what we're looking to do, yet.

The shower has never had a curtain or a shower door, so we never used it for the shower, we only took baths there (not to mention the showerhead was installed 4 feet off the wall for some reason). The lack of a door or curtain is probably what severed the tiles around the tub.

We started demo-ing and this is what's left. The tub is big, no doubt. But even if we downsize, we still wouldn't have a back support to put a shower door (since it would need something to be fastened to). We were thinking of making a cabinet for towels etc. in the left corner which would double as a support for a shower door.

What would you guys do? We're open to all suggestions. We demolished before thinking this through. We just don't wanna renovate the entire washroom because we just don't have the money for that. We're thinking the bidet will be removed also to add some leg room.

Solidify 06-18-2015 11:47 AM

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scottktmrider 06-18-2015 03:21 PM

If I am understanding you right. just frame a wall in back of the tub. leave it open and you could put some shelves in it or a built in. and you could not run the wall all the way to the ceiling and make the top of the wall a shelf
You could also go with a one piece shower or one that has the tub and wall panels separate, the one piece tub is what I would do,

Solidify 06-18-2015 03:32 PM

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Ok and lets say i wanted to downsize to a normal 60" tub, would i just remove the old tub and put the new one or would i have to raise the floor under the new tub so the tile ill reinstall will be flush with the old tile?

Solidify 06-18-2015 03:47 PM

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And also, i think because this is an older home the tiles were put down directly with concrete or something:

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Solidify 06-18-2015 03:51 PM

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In other words, theres no underlayment. Its just these thin planks (probably 3/4" x 7") nailed directly to the rafters. Then they just dropped concrete onto that (genereously so it would raise the level) and tiled directly onto that.

oh'mike 06-18-2015 08:59 PM

That old tile job is a mud bed---not well done---but a bed of 'deck mud' none the less--

You said that the budget is thin this week--so you will be doing a 'perfume the pig' job on the floor.

Build up layers of plywood topped with 1/4" cement board--what ever combination matches the height needed---then add your new tub---frame it with 2x4s and Durrock the walls.

Honestly, it will take some more time--but little more money, to demo the old floor --add plywood and backer and retile the entire floor---If you remove the bidet, you will have another patch in the old tile---

A few more details will help--Mike--

Solidify 06-18-2015 09:49 PM

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How was that mud bed supposed to have been done?

oh'mike 06-19-2015 05:14 AM

Typically, tar paper over the subfloor ,then expanded steel mesh, then the mud--

You could try that--the old sub floor doesn't look very well done---big gaps---

Solidify 06-19-2015 06:00 AM

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Thats exactly how I found it when demoing.

oh'mike 06-19-2015 06:18 AM

You could try your own mud bed---here is a link to shower pan building--it has a good description of deck mud---How to build a shower - Building a shower pan with pre-sloped mortar bed, liner and curb.

Mixing it to the damp beach sand stage is the key---it is remarkably stable when set--

Solidify 06-19-2015 10:14 AM

Advice on Bathroom Remodel
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The more I keep thinking this project over, the more I start realizing that I should just hold off until I can afford to renovate the entire bathroom, to avoid a Frankenstein-looking end result.

scottktmrider 06-20-2015 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by Solidify (Post 2175138)
The more I keep thinking this project over, the more I start realizing that I should just hold off until I can afford to renovate the entire bathroom, to avoid a Frankenstein-looking end result.

Sounds like the best, first off you need to decided on all your fixtures, tub,wall coverings etc.the floor should be one of the last things you do.and if your going to be putting a tile floor you should have a level even floor with duraroc down, you can't just throw tile down to cover the ugly floor up.or your tiles will be breaking.

Solidify 06-21-2015 09:16 PM

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We decided on replacing the tub with a 60", raising the showerhead and putting a cabinet in the back to support the future shower door. I got the tub loose today but its easily a couple hundred pounds and it's difficult to maneuver it to get it out of the washroom. So tomorrow I'm going to temporarily cap the bidet's hot and cold line with shut off valves so we can thrash that bidet (which we were just planning to do later) which will make it so the tub can clear the washroom. We spent a good hour and a half today trying to get it out but it's just too heavy and too awkward.


ben's plumbing 06-22-2015 06:03 AM

make sure you look at repairing that joist that is cut in half...:yes::yes:

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