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Old 12-08-2018, 03:26 PM   #1
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Advice on adding cement board around niche



Hello, I am doing my very first bathroom renovation.

I have a simple square shower niche in a wall I am trying to build back up the thickness to meet the original wall. The house was originally built in the late 50's, and whatever material they used is super hard and was used in the entire bathroom.

This particular wall I am trying to build back up, they used 1/4 inch & 1/2 inch.
The long shower wall they had used 1/4 inch & 1/4 inch.
And I have yet to tackle the wall with the faucet, but I believe I will only need 1/4 inch & 1/4 inch to build it back up to the thickness.

I think my only problem lies with the wall that used 1/4 & 1/2.

Right now I have two layers of 1/4 inch built up on the wall and it is perfectly fitting around my shower niche and it is also flush with the niche. If I were to add another layer of 1/4 inch board, how do I go about around the niche?

Do I now layer this third layer on top of the edges of the niche?
I think I can hit the studs around it, but I am going to have to really be precise to not hit the yellow edges, as there isn't much room left to hit the studs.
Anyone have any tips on the best way to solve this?

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Old 12-08-2018, 03:27 PM   #2
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Re: Advice on adding cement board around niche


okay, maybe the next one.
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This picture was taken after the first layer. The second layer is up and is flush with the edges. But I need to now add a third layer.


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Re: Advice on adding cement board around niche


The niche has not been screwed in yet.


I have 1/4 inch wood shims.

Would it be best to use the shims between the studs and niche to build it out 1/4 inch, so then when I add the third layer of cement board, it will all be flush?
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This set my head spinning. Is that niche inside the shower? What is with the wooden window to the right of the niche? Is it inside the shower, too?? How big is the shower in footprint? The shower renovation should have taken you back to raw studs and all the wall material removed so you have a clean slate to work with. More pictures would better define what you are doing. I am not sure why the Durock was layered.
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Oh geeze.

If it wasn't such a pain in the butt, I would add more pictures.

None of this has anything to do with my question.

Yes, I did take it down to the studs.

The shower niche is opposite wall from the faucet.

The window is a few inches outside of the shower/tub area, but I will be tiling up to it.

Upon building up the wall, I did not realize 1/2 inch & 1/4 inch was used, so I have layered up 3 layers of 1/4 inch board.

I have decided I am going to wet shim the stud and build it up 1/4 thick and let it set a bit before screwing and securing the niche. That way it will be flush with my third layer of board. I'm almost at that step anyway. Will finish this evening after work.
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Pictures are easy. Just click "Go Advanced" at the bottom of your post, then click on "manage attachments". Load your pictures and click "upload", then "submit".

For the record, you sent one picture, and want an evaluation based on that, so yeah, more pictures will have a bunch to do with your initial question.

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Upon building up the wall, I did not realize 1/2 inch & 1/4 inch was used, so I have layered up 3 layers of 1/4 inch board.
If you took it back to studs, I don't see why you had to layer it back up. Multiple layers of Durock?? Why? There should be 1/2" Durock on the walls.
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Because I didn't want to cut out the wall all the way to the ceiling. So I'm trying to meet back up with previous wall.

All I'm asking is if it's okay to layer the cement board over the edges of this niche, or if I want to keep everything flush. Everything else is irrelevant.
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This is where I'm at now.
I have brought out 2 of the 3 walls where I want them to be.

I have one more small piece to add to the top of the right side around the niche. And I am going to buy one 1/2 inch board today to finish the wall with the faucet. I really don't want to cut those holes again and again with multiple boards, as I don't have enough power tools and i am doing this with a carbide scoring tool, and I'm all out of boards anyway.
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It wouldn't attach to prior post
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This where I was a few weeks ago when I started. We had no cold water because the pipe was clogged solid, no shower existed, and the tiles were plastic and falling off, and the original boards were dry rotted. This all had to be done.
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If you can, make the Durock and niche flush with each other, especially if the niche sticks out proud, now.
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Re: Advice on adding cement board around niche


I think I know what you are saying, my home was like this. You had to build out the walls so the new tile would overlap the tub flange. The old walls were either plaster+lath or drywall+lath. So you have your walls the way you need them but the wall niche should be flush with the cement board. So you'll need to cut back the top layer of cement board and recess the niche.

Here is a photo of mine for reference:

It wasn't perfect but was close enough that I could skim around it with thinset so it isn't noticeable.
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