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Old 08-02-2013, 01:12 PM   #16
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Caulk is not meant for adhering something like that. Neither is "glue", but then exactly what does that mean?

If it were me, I'd simply cut out some tile and cement them in. However since you don't know what an angle grinder is, that option is probably not so "simple".

The next best suggestion I heard was the metal brace idea, drilling through the tiles to screw the brace in place.

Finally, you can "glue" them on there, but silicone is not going to hold them. If you go that route, you will be best off with a serious adhesive solution, like a 2 part epoxy, such as JB Weld.
http://www.jbweld.com/product/j-b-weld/
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Caulk is not meant for adhering something like that. Neither is "glue", but then exactly what does that mean?

If it were me, I'd simply cut out some tile and cement them in. However since you don't know what an angle grinder is, that option is probably not so "simple".

The next best suggestion I heard was the metal brace idea, drilling through the tiles to screw the brace in place.

Finally, you can "glue" them on there, but silicone is not going to hold them. If you go that route, you will be best off with a serious adhesive solution, like a 2 part epoxy, such as JB Weld.
http://www.jbweld.com/product/j-b-weld/
Jeff---Silicone works very well---and I am curious, How can a person remove tile from a corner using an angle grinder?

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Old 08-03-2013, 08:43 AM   #18
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all this talk, and no pics ? i have an easy solution , but i have to see what is being worked with.
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Project accomplished... The winning combination was Liquid Nails for adhesive and GE Silicone II around the outside. Thanks to everyone who offered advice; I greatly appreciated the assistance.

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Project accomplished... The winning combination was Liquid Nails for adhesive and GE Silicone II around the outside. Thanks to everyone who offered advice; I greatly appreciated the assistance.

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please post back, when it falls off.
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You'll note I said thanks to those who "offered advice", not "were know-it-all jerks".
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please post back, when it falls off.
Hate to disappoint, but it's a year later now and they're as rock-solid as the day I put them up, with plenty of "stuff" weighing on them and nary a sign of structural failure.
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Jeff---Silicone works very well---and I am curious, How can a person remove tile from a corner using an angle grinder?

A curious tile setter wants to know----Mike-----
Never did see this post all that time ago Mike.

To answer your question, yes obviously silicone will hold a little something - after all, it has some mass and it does "harden" to an extent. I shouldn't have said it "won't hold it" - I should have said there's a good chance it won't, and it's not the best choice.

But if you look at silicone as an adhesive in this contect, then things like paint, egg whites, flour and water, or any of a number of things will harden and "glue" things together to a certain extent. But to say they work "very well" for this particular application - no, I'd have to disagree with you there. Silicone is for waterproofing and caulking and other similar things. As an adhesive, it's pretty weak and there are better choices.

For the angle grinder, I'm not really sure what you're asking. A diamond grinding wheel cuts through grout and/or tile extremely easily. Are you talking about how it would fit in a corner specifically?

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I'm not surprised Liquid Nails has worked (until now). That's not to say it was the best choice. If you had posted that it failed, that wouldn't have surprised me either.

From the Liquid Nails FAQ: LIQUID NAILS Adhesive products resist water penetration. However, none of our products should be used below the waterline or immersed in water for long periods of time (e.g., pools, aquariums).

So Liquid Nails might be OK, but it would have been better to use something actually designed for your purpose. While you caulked with silicone, when building a shower you should assume anything you build in it will get wet that isn't behind a permanent waterproof barrier. I personally wouldn't consider silicone caulk permanent. It's just too common for caulking to form cracks and/or release from the substrate. I've replaced a lot of such silicone caulking myself.
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I've seen those attached over the existing tile with adhesive caulking (covering all mating surfaces). When I demo'd the 2 showers in my old house, that is how all the shelves were attached. It took almost all 200 lbs of me to peel them off the tile they were adhered to...
I'm not sure what was holding them on, but it's pretty safe to say that while it was obviously "adhesive", it was almost certainly not "caulking". Perhaps you meant to say it looked like something that was applied from a tube. Many industrial strength adhesives are applied with a so called "caulk" gun from a tube that are not caulk.
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Problem with cutting into pre-existing tile work, is that if you have a membrane under it, you cut through it, you are SOL and have to remove more tile to replace the section you cut out, or have to take enough tile away that you can place the membrane or Kerdi overlapping the existing, when you go to build the in-wall shelf.
The other guy mentioned this too, and this is very true. Removing tile is as much art as science. It helps to break the tile, if you can, at least the first one, so that you can remove it in little pieces without grinding as much around it. Then you'll have a better feel for what's underneath the tiles.
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Well, a little more than two years later now and it's still holding strong with zero sign of deterioration or failure of any components. It may not be a contractor's preferred method, but from my layman's experience the LiquidNails/SiliconeII route is still a champ and is doing exactly what I need it to.
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Hey Morgan19, I'm about to tackle this job myself and I appreciate you following up on your work a few years later. That's very helfpul.
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Re: Adding shelves to an already-tiled shower stall?


Hi Morgan, enjoyed reading your posts on this subject as I want to add new shelves to my existing ceramic tiled shower & tired of rusted shower caddies. Do you have any photos of your work & can you provide a reference for the type of shelves you eventually installed, thanks.
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