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Old 06-04-2016, 02:51 PM   #1
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What's the ideal connection for a garden hose bibb?


I want to replace our old soldered on garden hose bibb with a 1/4 turn model. I can't find any 1/4 turn hose bibbs in my local stores with a sweated connection. They are all threaded connections.

Is it best to use a threaded connection for a hose bibb, so it is easier to replace? Is the risk for leaks much greater with a threaded vs. sweated connection, or is that overblown, as long as you install it properly?

If I do go with a threaded hose bibb, is it best to sweat on a male adapter on the 3/4" copper tubing and use it with a female hose bibb or vice versa? I saw in another plumbing forum that some say that there is less hose bibb tightening stress on the copper tubing if you use a male adapter vs female adapter with a male hose bibb.

Any opinions on this?
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I'm surprised you have 3/4" feeding the bib. It's not common. Regardless, either male or female is fine for copper. Not so if you have CPVC or PVC. Then you want a MIP on the plastic pipe- a FIP will split.

I find solder connection is to easy replace. But I've done a lot of them over time.... others will prefer a screwed connector.
If I recall correctly, 3/4 bibs are available with male threads and solder connection combined- same with 1/2"
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I saw in another plumbing forum that some say that there is less hose bibb tightening stress on the copper tubing if you use a male adapter vs female adapter with a male hose bibb.

Any opinions on this?
I find that hard to believe.

It would be good practice to support the pipe so that you are not stressing a joint when you open/close a valve, but I don't see how male vs female adapter has any effect.

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why not just leave the old spout on and attach a 1/4 turn to it. Then just forever leave the old spout in the full open position? I recently did this to an old gate valve that the handle broke off. Just left the whole mechanism in place and screwed the "new" hardware onto it. (yes you need to get an adapter to go from "garden hose" thread to the thread of your quarter turn.
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I use a male threaded boiler drain 1/4 turn ball valve screwed into a drop ear elbow. My pipe out of the basement travels vertically up my exterior wall so it is not freezeproof.

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I saw in another plumbing forum that some say that there is less hose bibb tightening stress on the copper tubing if you use a male adapter vs female adapter with a male hose bibb.
Using a female adapter and a male hose hose bib is something that should be avoided when the adapter is PVC. Over tightening can crack the adapter, or leave it under enough stress that a jerk on the hose or other blow to the hose bib will crack it.

I have never worried about it with copper adapters, and do not believe it is an issue.

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I'm surprised you have 3/4" feeding the bib. It's not common. Regardless, either male or female is fine for copper. Not so if you have CPVC or PVC. Then you want a MIP on the plastic pipe- a FIP will split.

I find solder connection is to easy replace. But I've done a lot of them over time.... others will prefer a screwed connector.
If I recall correctly, 3/4 bibs are available with male threads and solder connection combined- same with 1/2"
All the cold water pipes in my entire house are 3/4". All the hot are 1/2". (CPVC). I don't know why it was done this way, but I seem to have fine water supply at only 35psi water pressure. Even have an underground 3/4" supply going to a set of gardens now with a 100" hose on it and it does pretty well.

Not saying this is the correct way to do it, just how mine is. Previous homeowner ****ed up everything, would not be surprised if this is wrong too. Also, the entire water supply comes out of my well and goes through the filters and softener and all that stuff, so I can literally drink out of my garden hose, LMAO.
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