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Old 07-04-2017, 06:50 AM   #1
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Normally I expect the ring in a toilet to be a buildup of hard water, or iron, which I simply remove with acid. But this ring will not react to acid. Is it etching of the porcelain? If so, how could etching happen with just water?
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What are you doing using acid in a toilet?? If it is etching, then you are going to have to replace the toilet eventually. Removing the ring can be done with milder things, like Hydrogen Peroxide, Coke, Vinegar. Yeah, they are all "acids", but not aggressive acids.
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Post a picture so we can see what your seeing.
Lots of different ways to deal with it.
Primus stone, Bar Keepers Friend, CLR, if it's rust stains, "The Works" works great.
If your getting stain at all your fixtures I'd be getting the water tested to figure out what type water treatment it needs.
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I use powder cleanser and scrub during my weekly cleaning of our toilet. That (a bit of abrasive - just like using BarKeepers Friend) works well for regular maintenance. However, grime/stain still accumulates/develops on the slope (just under the rim). So, once or twice a year, I use sandpaper. Light sanding will remove stubborn "stains" on a toilet surface.

If you're just pouring acid but you don't SCRUB your toilet, your toilet is going to end up dirty. Ditto for those blue discs that people like leaving inside the toilet water tank. They gunk up the tank. I had to scrub years of that blue thing off the tank when I moved in. People think blue discs, spraying or pouring something down the toilet will magically remove grime and stains. They don't. Elbow grease/Scrubbing is what gets them off.
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If the water is etching the toilet for gawd sake don't let the dog have access to the toilet water.

Recommended buy a janitorial service, we've used 23% acid toilet bowl cleaner on toilets for a couple of decades without any harmful effects to my knowledge.

If your toilet is truly etched it may be time for a new toilet.
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Thanks, people, but not so bad to warrant replacing a otherwise good toilet. Those products yous list above (CLR, etc) ARE acids. Thats what I meant. Nothiong else will dissolve calcium deposits. iron gets reduced ("neutralized, for laymans term) with an organic acid like oxalic. OR strong muriatic. COMMON Acid does not dissolve porcellain- only strong bases like lye.

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I use powder cleanser and scrub during my weekly cleaning of our toilet. That (a bit of abrasive - just like using BarKeepers Friend) works well for regular maintenance. However, grime/stain still accumulates/develops on the slope (just under the rim). So, once or twice a year, I use sandpaper. Light sanding will remove stubborn "stains" on a toilet surface.

If you're just pouring acid but you don't SCRUB your toilet, your toilet is going to end up dirty. Ditto for those blue discs that people like leaving inside the toilet water tank. They gunk up the tank. I had to scrub years of that blue thing off the tank when I moved in. People think blue discs, spraying or pouring something down the toilet will magically remove grime and stains. They don't. Elbow grease/Scrubbing is what gets them off.
Thanks, druid, but Yikes- sandpaper??! That will destroy the porcellain finish for sure! Also, "elbow grease' does not remove calcium deposits- acid will DISSOLVE them. Meaning, no scrubbing. Elbow grease I use for grease/grime/soap scum (from talc/body oils, etc) with force/scrubbing. Acid here is useless.
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I still dont know what caused the ring. Oh well.........not worth sending the bowl to a lab.....lol
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Thanks, druid, but Yikes- sandpaper??! That will destroy the porcellain finish for sure! Also, "elbow grease' does not remove calcium deposits- acid will DISSOLVE them. Meaning, no scrubbing. Elbow grease I use for grease/grime/soap scum (from talc/body oils, etc) with force/scrubbing. Acid here is useless.
Sandpaper + LIGHT pressure (keep wet) does not mar the porcelain surface.

Yes, acid will dissolve mineral deposits IF the ring on your toilet is due to mineral deposits. You don't even know what the ring is. How can people tell if you don't post pics?
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Sandpaper + LIGHT pressure (keep wet) does not mar the porcelain surface.

Yes, acid will dissolve mineral deposits IF the ring on your toilet is due to mineral deposits. You don't even know what the ring is. How can people tell if you don't post pics?
Tanks, druid, but a photo will never come out sharp/useful. Also, I am not photogenic.
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