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Old 03-03-2016, 11:16 AM   #1
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Stuck trim ring on single shower valve


Single handle shower with a constant drip. I am replacing the cartridge, but cannot get passed the trim ring. This picture is as far as I have made it. I've taken the 2 screws from the bottom of the polygon shaped trim (blue dot), but it doesn't move.

I've tried unscrewing the cap (red dot), but the whole cartridge inside turns with it. I have already tried penetrating oil to loosen it up. Where do I go from here?

Sledgehammer?


Edit: Got the polygon shaped piece off. Someone glued it on.

Still unsure if I can unscrew the cap with the cartridge turning with it.
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Its crusted on. Try tightening a little to break it free, also get a little spray up into threads to try and break it free.
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Try a utility knife around the border of it. Someone may have glued or siliconed it on.
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Just read your edit.

Is there a retaining clip that may be holding cartdrge in.
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try loosening that grey plastic ring up front to unload the chrome piece, then if still on there, heat it with a propane torch, you might melt the cartridge a little and you will be committed to finish it at this point..its not really a cartridge in there, there are seals behind the white piece with brass sticking out, but it is all replaceable, shouldnt be big $$..the actuall shower body is all brass and the heat wont hurt it..start with a little heat and go from there, the chrome piece holding it in is also a stock item if needed to be replaced..

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I've been watching the wrong tutorials. I don't have a pull out cartridge. I have a ball, springs, and seals. I found this video that explains it.

Me "turning the whole cartridge", was actually me about to break it. It doesn't look like I broke anything as of yet, but I did put a slight twist on the 3 tubes.

Skip to 1min in and you'll see.


So, I sprayed it some more, then used the backside of my channel locks and tapped all around the dome for a while. It eventually just loosened up and unscrewed by hand.

Now, to go find the new seals. The rubber seals in mine are very deteriorated and turn to fine black soot in my hand.

Thanks for the suggestions.

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try loosening that grey plastic ring up front to unload the chrome piece, then if still on there, heat it with a propane torch, you might melt the cartridge a little and you will be committed to finish it at this point....you have the new cartridge..so no biggie..
The plastic ring is brittle and broke apart when I tried to move it. I don't have the replacement parts yet. I assumed that I was going to have to pull out a cartridge, and then go to the hardware store and find a match. Total goof on my part if I cannot find replacement parts today.

I do have a heat gun that will melt plastic, and was very close to using it.

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I've been watching the wrong tutorials. I don't have a pull out cartridge. I have a ball, springs, and seals. I found this video that explains it.

Me "turning the whole cartridge", was actually me about to break it. It doesn't look like I broke anything as of yet, but I did put a slight twist on the 3 tubes.

Skip to 1min in and you'll see.



So, I sprayed it some more, then used the backside of my channel locks and tapped all around the dome for a while. It eventually just loosened up and unscrewed by hand.

Now, to go find the new seals. The rubber seals in mine are very deteriorated and turn to fine black soot in my hand.

Thanks for the suggestions.



The plastic ring is brittle and broke apart when I tried to move it. I don't have the replacement parts yet. I assumed that I was going to have to pull out a cartridge, and then go to the hardware store and find a match. Total goof on my part if I cannot find replacement parts today.

I do have a heat gun that will melt plastic, and was very close to using it.
all those parts are very common, anyplace should have them in stock..
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Just to update. Danco parts suck. Other than that, I found the correct parts and got it all back together. Thanks.
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